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Kill Bill II: The Vampire Strikes Back (Fight the Senate Immigration Bill - Just say NO to cloture!)
various | June 17, 2007 | WOSG

Posted on 06/17/2007 7:19:24 PM PDT by WOSG

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To: WOSG

61 posted on 06/18/2007 6:09:57 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: blam; XBob; aragorn; Politicalmom; Guenevere; parousia

Pinging this thread.


62 posted on 06/18/2007 6:42:21 AM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: truthkeeper; All
Make those phone calls!!!

I was easily connected to Bill Nelson's office this AM and spoke to a LIVE voice...(A RARITY!)

I threw in every tool I could think of...
..biggie, I'm a constituent...plus he's from my county and he ran as a devoted Christian, husband, father, church goer....blah blah blah...

..and I told them, as a constituent, how in the world could he vote for this amnesty bill...didn't he take an oath of office...

..and what part of illegal did he not understand, etc. etc.

I then called Mel Martinez office...(easily ...first ring...where are the phone calls this AM!!!)

Talked to a LIVE person, who then switched me to the 'immigration specialist'...(cough cough

...which turned out to be a voicemail but I didn't let that stop me !!!

Told him/them I voted for this guy....please forgive me!...that at one time I trusted President Bush and he told us Martinez would represent us....US...the people of Florida and the people of this nation!

I then asked what part of the Constitution did he not understand....

...what part of ILLEGAL does he not understand.....and so forth and so on.

I reiterated the many years I have lived in Florida, said I was a constituent AGAIN....and more.

63 posted on 06/18/2007 6:53:38 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: Guenevere

bump


64 posted on 06/18/2007 9:59:17 AM PDT by rolling_stone (same)
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To: WOSG

I can’t get a fax through to McConnell (my Senator) Either they are clogged or they are shutting us out.


65 posted on 06/18/2007 10:02:16 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: WOSG

And how convenient for Lott that his fax and phone do not seem to be accepting calls at this time.


66 posted on 06/18/2007 6:55:53 PM PDT by Honeybunch ("Words are, of course, the most powerful drug used by mankind." ~Rudyard Kipling)
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To: WOSG
My Senators heard from me yet again tonight. To one of them I was blunt enough to suggest that if he was deciding to refuse to be my representative in pursuit of becoming my leader that he'd end up being neither. Not a threat, a promise.

The Dems are laughing at this one all the way to the White House in 2008. Any Republican stupid enough to be left holding the bag will deserve what he gets, because if he is thinking that the Dems will come rushing to his rescue on this he doesn't know them very well.

A thoroughly pissed-off BTT.

67 posted on 06/18/2007 7:08:57 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: WOSG

This letter was sent to Tom Harkin.

Should it be modified and emailed to other senators? I would personally add a sentence how upon becoming an illegal alien, I cannot legally contribute money to U.S. politicians.

Please pass it along.

The Honorable Tom Harkin
731 Hart Senate Office Building
Phone (202) 224 3254
Washington DC, 20510

Dear Senator Harkin,

As a native Iowan and excellent customer of the Internal Revenue Service, I am writing to ask for your assistance. I have contacted the Department of Homeland Security in an effort to determine the process for becoming an illegal alien and they referred me to you.

My primary reason for wishing to change my status from U.S. Citizen to illegal alien stems from the bill which was recently passed by the Senate and for which you voted. If my understanding of this bill’s provisions is accurate, as an illegal alien who has been in the United States for five years, all I need to do to become a citizen is to pay a $2,000 fine and income taxes for three of the last five years. I know a good deal when I see one and I am anxious to get the process started before everyone figures it out.

Simply put, those of us who have been here legally have had to pay taxes every year so I’m excited about the prospect of avoiding two years of taxes in return for paying a $2,000 fine. Is there any way that I can apply to be illegal retroactively? This would yield an excellent result for me and my family because we paid heavy taxes in 2004 and 2005.

Additionally, as an illegal alien I could begin using the local emergency room as my primary health care provider. Once I have stopped paying premiums for medical insurance, my accountant figures I could save almost $10,000 a year.

Another benefit in gaining illegal status would be that my daughter would receive preferential treatment relative to her law school applications, as well as “in-state” tuition rates for many colleges throughout the United States for my son.

Lastly, I understand that illegal status would relieve me of the burden of renewing my driver’s license and making those burdensome car insurance premiums. This is very important to me given that I still have college age children driving my car.

If you would provide me with an outline of the process to become illegal (retroactively if possible) and copies of the necessary forms, I would be most appreciative.

Thank you for your assistance.

Your Loyal Constituent,

XXXXXXXXXX


68 posted on 06/18/2007 7:35:38 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA
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To: Honeybunch

http://www.vote-smart.org/official_congress.php?dist=bio.php
I couldn’t get through to Lott in DC either so I called his local office...


69 posted on 06/18/2007 7:37:07 PM PDT by rolling_stone (same)
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To: WOSG
Talking Points (Your calls will carry more weight if you are polite and respectful!):

I would suggest, personally, "There is no reason to give lawbreakers any benefit not available to those who follow the law." Perhaps also a quote from Dane Geld.

70 posted on 06/18/2007 8:11:04 PM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: WOSG

Just say NO to Illegal Alien Amnesty!! Keep calling!! It’s NOT OVER!!

U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121

U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121

White House comments: (202) 456-1111

Find your House Rep.: http://www.house.gov/writerep

Find your US Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm


71 posted on 06/18/2007 8:27:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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To: WOSG

TEDDY KENNEDY - SOURCE OF OUR IMMIGRATION WOES:

Immigration Bills since 1965
1965 Immigration and Nationality Act:

* Eliminated country-specific quotas
* Broad numerical limits were nearly doubled from 154,000 to 290,000
* Changed Eastern Hemispheric annual quotas to 170,000 (20,000 per country)
* Created a first time annual cap of 120,000 for the Western Hemisphere
* Special preference rules making immediate family members exempt from numerical quotas, however, caused the 290,000 official ceiling to be shattered.
* Coupled with European economic prosperity in mid 1960s, European immigrants to the US dropped to less than 20%. Latin America and Asia become the leading sources of immigrants.

Refugee Act of 1980

* U.S. broadens definition of allowable refugees
* 125,000 refugees allowed annually
* From 1981-1986, more than 450,000 refugees and asylum seekers

1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA)

* Legalized 2.7 million unauthorized aliens (about 1.6 million illegal residents who entered prior to 1982, and 1.1 million illegal agricultural laborers who had worked in the U.S. for at least 6 months)
* Sought to curb illegal immigration by establishing penalties for employers who knowingly hire illegal aliens

1990 Immigration Act

* Raised the annual ceiling from 270,000 to 700,000 for 1992-94 and 675,000 afterwards (including 480,000 family-sponsored, 140,000 employment-based, and 55,000 “diversity” immigrants)
* Allows an unlimited number of visas for immediate relatives -children, parents and spouses - of US citizens, not counted under the cap
* The 125,000 allowable refugees are also not counted under the cap
* Almost nine (9) million immigrants came to the U.S. in the 1990s

1996 Immigration Reform Law

* Addressed concerns about illegal immigration through a variety of law enforcement measures, including increased border control personnel, equipment and technology.
* Doubled, for example, the number of border patrol agents from 5,175 in 1996 to almost 10,000 by 2000.
* Confronted concerns about illegal immigrants access to government benefits by making undocumented immigrants ineligible for Social Security benefits
* Illegal immigrants still currently enter the U.S. at an estimated rate of 300,000 per year. Seven million illegal immigrants are currently estimated to be living in the U.S.

1996 Welfare Reform Law

* Barred legal immigrants entering the U.S. after 1996 from most federal means- tested programs (food stamps, CHIP, Medicaid, etc) for 5 years
* Raised the income and legal standards for U.S. residents who sponsor immigrants
* Barred illegal immigrants eligibility from most federal, state and local public assistance

2000 H-1B Visa Legislation

* Increased the number of temporary immigration visas for high-technology workers from 65,000 in 1990 to 115,000 for fiscal years 1999-2000 to 195,000 for fiscal years 2001-2003. In fiscal year 2004 the number was returned to 65,000.

Ted Kennedy has already pushed SEVEN amnesties into law. None was followed by a reduction in illegal immigration. Why should anybody believe this one will be?

1. In 1986, Ted Kennedy’s blanket amnesty for 2.7 million illegal aliens promised a lot more enforcement but did not set any requirments for actual reductions in illegal immigration. The illegal flow continued.
2. In 1994, Ted Kennedy’s Section 245(i) Amnesty gave legal residence and jobs to 578,000 illegal aliens. It was a temporary rolling amnesty primarily for extended family members of immigrants who instead of waiting in line, come on to the country illegally. The illegal flow continued.
3. In 1997, Ted Kennedy’s extension of the Section 245(i) rolling amnesty was followed by an increasing flow of illegal immigration.
4. In 1997, Ted Kennedy also won an amnesty for close to one million illegal aliens from Central America. Illegal immigration sped up some more.
5. In 1998, Ted Kennedy won an amnesty for 125,000 illegal aliens from Haiti. The illegal flow continued.
6. In 2000, Ted Kennedy got the so-called Late Amnesty, legalizing another 400,000 illegal aliens who claimed that they missed out on Kennedy’s 1986 amnesty. Illegal immigration continued unimpeded.
7. In 2000, Ted Kennedy also won the LIFE Act Amnesty for an estimated 900,000 illegal aliens. It was another reinstatement of the rolling Section 245(i) amnesty., an estimated 900,000 illegal aliens. Illegal immigration accelerated.

Now, Ted Kennedy is saying that this amnesty is necessary if we are ever to stop the flow of illegal aliens. Why would any of these Senators believe him when he says this amnesty bill will end illegal immigration with a track record like his?


72 posted on 06/18/2007 8:31:26 PM PDT by WOSG (Stop Z-visa amnesty!! 202-224-3121.)
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To: WOSG

Kennedy is Godfather of the immigration mess.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1852469/posts


73 posted on 06/18/2007 8:40:07 PM PDT by WOSG (Stop Z-visa amnesty!! 202-224-3121.)
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To: WOSG

Wow! Thanks so much for all the informtion. I had no idea how bad this bill was.


74 posted on 06/18/2007 8:58:05 PM PDT by debby_dee
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To: Guenevere

They have a VOICEMAIL during the DAY for calls on immigration... sounds like a ‘talk to the hand’ routine.

Or in unix/linux terms: echo “No amnesty!” > /dev/null


Some illegal alien factoids:

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year. http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English! http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for
Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers. http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html

9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American
wages are caused by the illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that’s two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the United States . http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroine and marijuana, crossed into
the U. S. from the Southern border. Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl.com/t9sht

12. The National Policy Institute, “estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.” http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin. http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm

14. “The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States “. http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml


75 posted on 06/18/2007 9:36:46 PM PDT by WOSG (Stop Z-visa amnesty!! 202-224-3121.)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

What the Bush-Kennedy Bill (S. 1348) is:

“It’s like a loose thread on a cheap sweater, you start pulling and the sleeve comes off.”- Senator Byron L. Dorgan (D-ND)

* Amnesty Without Limits.
* Illegal Aliens Eligible for In-State Tuition.
* No English Required.
* Social Security Rip-Offs.
* Border Fence Cut Short.
* 24 Hour Limit on Background Checks.
* Gang Members Eligible for Amnesty.
* Undermines U.S. Sovereignty.
* Estimated $2.6 Trillion Cost to Taxpayers.
* Illegal Aliens Not Required to Pay Back Taxes.
* Fugitive Aliens Eligible for Amnesty.
* Chain Migration Expanded to Absorb Backlog.


76 posted on 06/18/2007 9:44:26 PM PDT by WOSG (Stop Z-visa amnesty!! 202-224-3121.)
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To: WOSG

Great post. It really helps.


77 posted on 06/18/2007 10:37:29 PM PDT by CT (http://www.imwithfred.com)
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To: CT

http://travismonitor.blogspot.com/

I believe the real conservatives in this country are becoming more united than we have been in a long time, as we find ourselves all in this fight against the largest illegal immigrant amnesty ever.

We are now fighting on common and secure ground of rock-solid conservative principles:

* We are defending American sovereignty and our right to decide who crosses our borders
* We are fighting to defend law and order, both in the immigration laws itself and in general
* We are fighting to stop the pillaging of taxpayers, the expansion of our welfare state, the undermining of working Americans, and the degradation and corruption of our Government
* We are fighting to defend American heritage, culture, language and unity against the multi-culturalist ideologues and the enemies of American exceptionalism


78 posted on 06/18/2007 11:48:10 PM PDT by WOSG (Stop Z-visa amnesty!! 202-224-3121.)
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To: WOSG

Great facts- all credible.

For fighting illegal immigration, I like this site:

www
numbersusa
com

You can send free faxes to congress- It’s pretty sweet.


79 posted on 06/19/2007 5:36:08 AM PDT by Duerte (www.thesavagearchive.com)
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To: WOSG

BTTT


80 posted on 06/19/2007 5:42:45 AM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF *GOA*SAS)
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