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To: mmichaels1970

Based on those quotations, he’s describing a policy of attrition. Which is what most of us want. Which is what most of the country wants, if I’ve read between the lines in enough of these polls correctly.

I can understand questioning his sincerity being this topic is red hot now, and he wasn’t on the front lines to my knowledge ten years ago. Though most weren’t.

I cannot understand taking those quotes from present and trying to twist them into support for massive amnesty. Not you, but others.

Partial amnesty....yes. After all, attrition at it’s heart does imply the most hardcore that do not pull up stakes and return home when denied employment would be allowed to stay. Though I think there would be an argument as to just what liberties they’d be granted for having broken the law to begin with. But the basic idea is to reduce it from 15-30 million, to between 1-5 million while cutting the flow of illegals off completely. Easier to assilimate these smaller numbers, and easier to stomach doing so, if it’s guarenteed never to happen again.

The main argument we’re having now is that our government wants to grant leniacy to numbers we could never assimilate, and let it continue indefinitely. Thats intolerable.

If Thompson’s position is to enforce the border first, penalize emloyers first, and then practice this philosophy of attrition I’m onboard with that. i think the country would be.

I’m still hesitant to trust on this issue though. If it was Hunter, it would be different. I’m following Thompson closely because he’s my most likely choice provided Hunter can’t increase his numbers. Unlikely but my loyalty is to him fist. :-) On pro-Life issues, I’m not nearly as hesitant about Thompson. A President with a Federalist approach to those issues is fine by me. He doesn’t have to be a pro-lifer in the sense that G.W.B. is, though that remains the one area I’m not disappointed in Bush about.


57 posted on 06/18/2007 4:53:04 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Kobach: Amnesty is going from an illegal to a legal position, without imposing the original penalty.)
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To: Soul Seeker
He doesn’t have to be a pro-lifer in the sense that G.W.B. is, though that remains the one area I’m not disappointed in Bush about.

If I'm reading Fred right, he is in exactly the same position as G.W.B., and with most folks in this country. Abortion ONLY in the first trimester and ONLY in the cases of REPORTED rape and incest or in the event the mother's LIFE is in danger.

If we were to actually get to that point, I'm guessing over 98% of babies would be spared, and frankly, after the last 34 years of babies being killed for any reason and no reason, I can accept that. At that point, we can begin to persuade those women who were raped, or became pregnant as a result of incest to give their babies up for adoption, and we'd probably be much more successful, because to get to that point, there would have been a real attitude shift in this country.

60 posted on 06/18/2007 5:18:02 PM PDT by SuziQ
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