YouTube Video On Avoiding U.S. Job Applicants Angers Programmers

InformationWeek ^ | Jun 18, 2007 | Mary Hayes Weier

[calcowgirl]

View the Video Here

Prior FR Thread: How to not hire an American

Money Quote:

"Our goal is clearly NOT to find a qualified U.S. worker... our objective is to get this person a green card ... so certainly we are not going to try to find a place where applicants would be most numerous."

-Lawrence M. Lebowitz - VIce President of Marketing, Cohen & Grigsby

[calcowgirl]

FYI.

[glorgau]

"These ads constitute fraud on American job seekers,"

I'm sure some enterprising lawyer can manage to find RICO case.

[puppypusher]

That’s why our corporations are always bribing congress to increase the number of H1-B visas,so they can avoid paying Americans the going Market wage.

These Corporations are going to kill the middle class because of greed.If they wreck the American Middle class who do they think will buy their products.

[freekitty]

Job Fairs. What a laugh. They only serve to make an employer look good.

[pointsal]

Nothing like a lawyer....

[Czar]

The biggest outrage is not the one committed by the law firm, but rather the complicity of our very own worthless and useless federal government--everyone understands that "enforcement" of U.S, immigration laws is virtually nonexistent and on those rare occasions when they may actually be moved to do something, that something is always accompanied by the "wink and a nod" signal for the pro-illegal alien lobby that means "don't worry, we had to act on this one, but you guys are free to keep doing what you have been doing with only occasional and largely symbolic interference from us".

[calcowgirl]

Not just Corporations.

Apparently the California Republican Party couldn’t find any Americans to employ, instead using an H1B visa to hire a Canadian. The guy doing the hiring for the CRP is an Australian.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1850876/posts

Of course, the Governor is an Austrian citizen, so I guess we shouldn’t be surprised.

[AM2000]

If they wreck the American Middle class who do they think will buy their products. America only has 300 million people, spread across a very large piece of land. The American middle class is a subset of that. They intend to sell their products/services to middle classes in other lands... lands that have a lot more people (read 'consumers') than we do. Corporations and the people who kowtow to them (read 'politicians on both sides of the aisle') aren't going to look out for our interests. Who will?

[nicmarlo]

FYI

They just hate it when their anti-American unethical tactics are exposed.

[calcowgirl]

No doubt they will continue on without shame. ;-(

[nicmarlo]

But of course. They can’t become something other than what they are in the dark, greedy heart of hearts.

[pissant]

Wow. This is bullshiite. Good find Calcowgirl.

Sam, please forward this on to your father. I think he will be very interested in this.

[Huck]

These Corporations are going to kill the middle class because of greed

Which is funny cuz that's where the middle class works, and whose stock the middle class owns. The market will dictate. They're not trying to kill the middle class. Just trying to keep costs down.

[AM2000]

Just trying to keep costs down.

Which is fine. It's the atempt to circumvent the intent of the law that bothers people. The whole point was to allow corporations to hire foreigners when they can't find a qualified US worker. That's not what's happening here, and that is what is wrong.

[RushingWater]

Wow - that video is wicked. I would like to see the HR people in it lose their jobs to an immigrant. How many applications do they get of people out of jobs? This is just wrong.

[RushingWater]

Correciton in previous post:
not immigrant - H1B visa person. Legal immigrants AOK. Corporations trying to NOT hire Americans - slimely.

[NVDave]

As a veteran of Silly Valley, I can attest that what you see here is 100% true: job descriptions that are made to meet the legal requirements that “no H1B visa or green card holder takes a job from an American” are carefully crafted to make sure that no one will be able to meet the requirements of the H1B visa holder that has retained the lawyers in pursuit of a green card.

The other dirty little secret out there is this: H1B visa employees are the closest thing to indentured servants since the end of the Civil War. When you’re working under a H1B visa, you have to pretty much take whatever crap your “sponsoring company” is handing out until such time as you get your green card, which requires forking over quite a tidy sum to a law firm like Cohen & Grigsby. H1B visa holders, if fired, by law have to return to their home country before applying for another H1B (or other) visa to enter the US.

This ends up working as a lengthy probation period. If the H1B holder doesn’t work out for the hiring company, they just choose to not continue his employment at the end of his visa; legally, he is now up a creek. If the employer deems him worthy of retention, the employer might hire the lawyers to get the green card process moving right along. At the point that the employee gains his green card, then his pay often goes up, or generous stock options are granted to implement a golden handcuff to keep the guy in place.

[steel_resolve]

my ex went to work for cohen and grigsby in pitt. I went to one of their events - they were mostly a bunch of a-holes.

[Huck]

It's the atempt to circumvent the intent of the law that bothers people. The whole point was to allow corporations to hire foreigners when they can't find a qualified US worker. That's not what's happening here, and that is what is wrong.

Well, circumvention of legal intent all depends on who's ox is getting gored, doesn't it? I don't know a businessman doesn't try to cut costs/corners. And anyway, how do you know what the whole point was? Maybe the whole point all along was to import cheap labor, and the bit about "when they can't find qualified US workers" was just crapola to sell it to the rubes. Not trying to hassle you about it. Just saying.