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Russian fighter planes sale to Syria alarms Israel-
afp ^ | 6/19/07 | afp

Posted on 06/19/2007 3:42:56 AM PDT by Flavius

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To: spetznaz
However buying fighters and hoping to go one on one with the Israelis is just plain dumb!

I'm going to display my absolute ignorance of air power when I ask: What if the goal is NOT to just dogfight the Israeli Air Force? What if the goal is to just get one fighter within striking distance of a high value Israeli civilian or governmental target?

It may be a stupid question, but at Mach 2.8, it occurs to me that it doesn't take long to get from anyplace in Syria to Tel Aviv.

41 posted on 06/19/2007 10:37:41 AM PDT by hunter112 (Change will happen when very good men are forced to do very bad things.)
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To: RusIvan

Wow, you are either one of the dumbest f*cks around or you are a pure Russian lier..

1. in 1812 Poland did not exist thanks to Russia

2. in 1938 Poland crossed Czechoslovakian border to protect her citizens in Slask Cieszynski from Nazis, it ended up in protecting both Poles and Czechoslovakians, Russians attacked Poland in 1939 claiming that they want to protect Belarussians, this ended up in killing Poles

3. allies usually help each other, that’s why Russia is helping Venezuela, China, Belarus and N. Korea... Putin minds think alike.


42 posted on 06/20/2007 12:56:07 AM PDT by Verdelet (Condemned by European Parliament since 2004!!!)
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To: Verdelet

1. in 1812 Poland did not exist thanks to Russia==

Nevertherless the polish corp is participated into the Napoleon invasion to Russia.

2. in 1938 Poland crossed Czechoslovakian border to protect her citizens in Slask Cieszynski from Nazis, it ended up in protecting both Poles and Czechoslovakians, Russians attacked Poland in 1939 claiming that they want to protect Belarussians, this ended up in killing Poles ==

Poland was attacked by Soviets not Russians. And Stalin told that he needed to protect Ukarnian and Belorussians from same nazies(sounds familier?).

So who is a “lier” now?:)

3. allies usually help each other, that’s why Russia is helping Venezuela, China, Belarus and N. Korea... Putin minds think alike. ==

Poland helps the ally and participated in the occupation on other people. So Poland got free and soon became the occupier herself. So why Poland whine about the occupation on herself if she likes to do the same to others?


43 posted on 06/20/2007 2:02:45 AM PDT by RusIvan (Western MSM zombies the western publics.)
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To: RusIvan

“Nevertherless the polish corp is participated into the Napoleon invasion to Russia.”

people of occupied countries usually fight with opressors, never heard about that? If Russia wouldn’t attack Poland occupy it there wouldn’t be any need for polish corps in Napoleon’s army.

“Poland was attacked by Soviets not Russians. And Stalin told that he needed to protect Ukarnian and Belorussians from same nazies(sounds familier?).”

Poland helped Czechoslovakians against Nazis... and Russians helped Nazis kill Poles... it does make a difference... Unless you like nazis, that wouldn’t surprise me, soviets like you always liked nazis as they have much in common.

“So why Poland whine about the occupation on herself if she likes to do the same to others?”

The difference is that Poles didn’t went there to take over country, partition it and make it part of Poland, Poles do not kill innocent people, Russians usually do that.


44 posted on 06/20/2007 5:04:54 AM PDT by Verdelet (Condemned by European Parliament since 2004!!!)
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Talking about non-aggresivenes of Poland....
In 1920 Poland attacked Russia weakend by bolshevik’s terror and civil war. Polish troops even seized Kiev but were kicked out by Red Army, which nearly conquered Warsaw afterwards.

Poland helped Czechoslovakians against Nazis>>>
01.10.38 Poland (backed by Hiler) issued an ultimatum demanding Teshinsky region from Chekhoslovakia. Chekoslavakia threatened by Germany, Poland and Hungary was forced to obey.
Germans seized Sudetsky region. USSR issued a note objecting this.
So, the role of Poland in the whole matter is, let’s say... controversial.


45 posted on 06/21/2007 7:12:36 AM PDT by EMT
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To: EMT

I won’t even comment your post as it’s hard to comment lies... straight historical facts I have provided people on this forum several times, do not change the shit they call “historical education”.

Even if soviet propaganda claims that Poles have cooperated with Hitler on Czechoslovakian (which is a lie not supported by any historical documents), claiming that it was Poles who attacked poor Russia in 1920 is not just a lie... it’s a crime against truth. Just to mention... before war Tuchaczewski said :”I’ll bring communism to Europe even if I have to walk knee-deep in Polish blood” Russians attacked weakend Poland (which gained independence after 123 years) and got the shit beaten out of them... Poland saved Europe from communism but still some people forget about it.

Goebbels said: “A lie repeated 100 times will finally become truth”


46 posted on 06/21/2007 8:46:46 AM PDT by Verdelet (Condemned by European Parliament since 2004!!!)
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Even if soviet propaganda claims that Poles have cooperated with Hitler on Czechoslovakian (which is a lie not supported by any historical documents)>>>
OK. You sound a bit emotional. Let’s put our facts straight:
- Do you deny ultimatum that was issued by Poland demanding Teshinsky regeion from Chekhs?
- Do you deny that this part of C-slovakia was taken by Poland and Sudets part was taken by Hitler at the same time?

Poles who attacked poor Russia in 1920 is not just a lie... it’s a crime against truth.>>>
- Do you deny that Polish troops entered Kiev in 1920?


47 posted on 06/21/2007 9:06:33 AM PDT by EMT
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