[tpaine]

I hope we can agree that while Congress and the Courts are "blatantly disregarding" our Constitution....
The fact that they are also ignoring who created what, [- while an interesting religious question] - will never affect our survival as a Republic, because they are duty bound by the Law of the Land to ignore such divisive religious issues.

The survival of our Republic, my dear friend, will depend on people recognizing that our very Constitution is ordered on a particular view of man,

Indeed it is. And our specific individual views - on who created what, are not [or should not be] the issue.

and hence the resulting political order must support this view -- which is thoroughgoingly classical and Judeo-Christian at its root.

You are simply ignoring the fact that much of the 'classical' foundations of our Constitution are based on pagan [greek/roman/nordic] common/natural law.

The intent of the Framers cannot be understood without recognizing that their intellectual and spiritual roots were in Athen, Jerusalem, and Rome. FWIW.

And in Danelaw; - hell, - even Iroquois Federation law was cited by some of the Framers .

If we value our Constitution for the wisdom of its Framers, then we need to honor the very sources that they relied on.

Do you doubt that any here do not?

Once we start spitting at that,

Who here is spitting?

the ignominious end of the American polity is already in view.... FWIW
I'm hunkering down right now, because I know how much you love to disagree with me! But the fact is: It's lovely to see you again, tpaine!

Indeed, I love to turn the issue back to constitutional basics, a subject many here have problems facing, because our constitution is a very sectarian document.

Please, - read the Story quote I just posted, - I'd appreciate your comments on that.

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our constitution is a very sectarian document.

I must differ with your conclusion here, dear tpaine. The Constitution is not "a sectarian document," nor it is an explicitly "religious document" -- in any sectarian sense. But it is clearly informed by the wisdom of Jerusalem, Athens, and Rome. That is to say, it is informed by the moral law of Judeo-Christianity; the rationality of Greek philosophy; and Roman concepts of political order.

If your link was to Joseph Story, I'm glad to give it a look. I've encountered him before. I consider him a very sound souce for the understanding of the American rule of law from the jurisprudential point of view.

But that will have to wait 'til tomorrow, for I'm pooped, and it's time for sleep....

But will be speaking with you again soon, dear tpaine!