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NASCAR Nextel Toyota / Save Mart 350 - Infineon at Sonoma on TnT, Sunday 6/24/07 - 330pm ET
Nascar.com ^ | 6/20/07

Posted on 06/20/2007 12:33:33 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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1 posted on 06/20/2007 12:33:36 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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Welcome to this week's 2007 Nascar at FR race thread!

This Week - Toyota / Save Mart 350 at Sonoma

June 24 , 2007




Nascar Toyota / Save Mart 350 - 06|24|07 - TnT Sun. 330pm ET /~/ Qualifying - Speed - 06|22|07 7pm ET

Busch Series AT&T 250 - 06|23|07 - ESPN2 Sat. 8pm ET /~/ Qualifying - Speed - 06|23|07 530pm ET

Craftsman Toyota Tundra Milwaukee 200 - 06|22|07 - Speed FRi. 830pm ET /~/ Qualifying 630pm ET




Infineon Raceway

In 1968, the 2.52-mile road-racing course was constructed on 720 acres by Marin County owners Robert Marshall Jr., an attorney from Point Reyes, and land developer Jim Coleman of Kentfield. The two conceived of the idea of a racetrack while on a hunting trip. Ground was broken in August and paving of the race surface was completed in November. The first official event at Infineon Raceway was an SCCA Enduro, held on Dec. 1, 1968.




Track Facts
Banking/Turns: --
Distance: 1.99 miles
Shape: Road Course


2 posted on 06/20/2007 12:34:38 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... For want of a few good men, a once great nation was lost.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Woo Hoo... my second favorite race of the year (besides Bristol)... NASCAR learns how to turn right!


3 posted on 06/20/2007 12:36:30 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket
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To: NormsRevenge; glock rocks; Pete-R-Bilt; NYTexan; WestCoastGal; tubebender; Afronaut; AgentEcho; ...

Toyota / Save Mart 350 at Sonoma thread is up!


4 posted on 06/20/2007 12:37:36 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... For want of a few good men, a once great nation was lost.)
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Support Our Troops!!!

5 posted on 06/20/2007 12:39:54 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... For want of a few good men, a once great nation was lost.)
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Report: NASCAR To Change Name Of Premier Racing Series Next Year

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1853556/posts


6 posted on 06/20/2007 12:48:27 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket
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To: NormsRevenge

Smell the burned up clutches and stripped transmissions? Tony is due to win this one.


7 posted on 06/20/2007 12:51:21 PM PDT by Uncle George
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To: So Cal Rocket

Thanks! It beats Verizon, I guess. ;-]


8 posted on 06/20/2007 12:57:54 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... For want of a few good men, a once great nation was lost.)
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Norm and everyone...the news was just published on the official JG website that little miss Ella Sofia Gordon was born today. Mother and daughter are fine. No word about how “Big Daddy” Jeff is doing. ;-) Pictures and other info to follow.


9 posted on 06/20/2007 1:15:04 PM PDT by Wolfstar (If ye break faith with us who die, We shall not sleep, though poppies grow in Flanders fields.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Thanks for the ping.

And Jeff is a proud pappa, cool!

10 posted on 06/20/2007 1:21:01 PM PDT by LasVegasMac (Give me 10 days and we'll be at war with those SOB's - I'll make it look like their fault!")
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THanks!

Jeff Gordon and wife have baby girl

June 20, 2007

NEW YORK, N.Y. (AP) -- Jeff Gordon won't have to miss a race for the birth of his daughter.

NASCAR's four-time champion became a father Wednesday when his wife, model Ingrid Vandebosch, gave birth to a girl. Gordon announced on his Web site that Ella Sofia Gordon was born Wednesday morning.

``It's been an absolutely incredible experience,'' Gordon said. ``Ingrid came through amazingly and we're both really happy and overjoyed. We can't wait to get home and start our lives together as a family.''

Gordon asked Mark Martin to be on standby this weekend in case he had to leave the race in Sonoma, Calif., to return for the birth. He said he'll travel to California later this week and participate in all on-track activities at Infineon Raceway.

Gordon's baby was born two days after Tiger Woods' daughter.

11 posted on 06/20/2007 1:23:02 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... For want of a few good men, a once great nation was lost.)
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To: Wolfstar

Congrats to the Gordon family!


12 posted on 06/20/2007 1:24:12 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... For want of a few good men, a once great nation was lost.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Ella Sofia Gordon was born at 9:09 am today in NYC. She weighted 7 pounds, 1 ounce, and was 20 inches long. Pictures will be available later on the official JG website.


13 posted on 06/20/2007 1:36:50 PM PDT by Wolfstar (If ye break faith with us who die, We shall not sleep, though poppies grow in Flanders fields.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Emailed to Beau Estes on NASCAR.COM in reply to his latest column --

Hi Beau.

When doing driver comparisons, statistics are good place to start, but are far from a conclusion. There are too many contingencies – skill level and equipment (including crew) are the two biggest. But there are also a bunch of intangibles. Thinks like maturity, desire, temper. When Mark Martin pulls out of the way of a faster car, right or wrong, that is an example of maturity. When Dale. Sr. punted a competitor out of the way to take the checkered, right or wrong, that is an example of desire. When Kurt Busch pulls up next to Smoke (Tony Stewart) on pit road almost taking out a crew member, right or wrong, that is an example of temper.

I am by NO means a fan of Jeff Gordon, but I see little doubt that he is the best active driver in NASCAR, period. He has the overall best combination of skills, equipment, maturity, desire and temper.

It is hard to say how much of Jimmie Johnson’s and Shrub’s (Kyle Busch) success are related to equipment. Johnson has arguably the best crew chief in NASCAR. But what we do know about Shrub is that he lacks one of the intangibles in a major way – maturity. He acts entitled and is not a good team member. So we have this conundrum about Shrub, in top flight HMS equipment but lacking maturity – just how good is he? Your suggestion the driver switch to DEI indeed would prove invaluable in finding out.

Tony Stewart. He has the skill and desire and maturity. Hard to rate his equipment, certainly not as good as Hendrick, or even RCR. But the guy is a hothead! Now, I am a fan, so I am allowed to say it, but he does not have a good grip on his temper, and that is why he is no Jeff Gordon.

Junior. I was a proud member of Junior Nation because I was a fan of the Old Man. But with Junior going to HMS, he lost me. I am staying at DEI. I think Junior is a great driver based on his overall record including as a Busch series champion. However, every race for the last three years I have listened to his in car radio, and his heart has not been in driving. I have no proof of this, but I think it was the loss of his father (and now Rick Hendrick becomes the father figure, as Darrell Waltrip correctly called it before it happened). Junior has the skills and the maturity, but I think his desire and temper have been misplaced for the least three years. Not lacking! Misplaced. As you correctly stated, Junior going to HMS is going to provide some answers. The question is, what kind of equipment was DEI giving Junior before he decided to leave?

Move to Truex, Jr. Let us assume that on race teams the #1 driver gets the first best equipment and engineers, the #2 driver gets the second, etc. Let us further assume that as soon as Junior announced he was leaving DEI, he was no longer considered their #1 driver. After all, in the long run does not DEI have more to gain by Truex making the Chase than Junior? Every race I watch on tv, but follow lap times on NASCAR.COM’s Trackpass. For the last three races, Truex has had the fastest car on the track, both in the COT car he won in, and the old car. If Pocono had not been called because of rain, according to lap times he would have passed both Flash (Jeff Gordon) and Rocket (Ryan Newman). The Bass Pro Shop team brought their Pocono car to Michigan, and sure enough it was the fastest on the track. He was catching Flipper (Carl Edwards) in the last laps but brushed the wall and lost the handle (his car got tight), and had to settle for second. So, was this Junior’s equipment before he announced he was leaving?

When I see Martin Truex, I see a younger version of Jimmie Johnson. Scratch that. When I see the #1 TEAM I see a younger version of the #48 TEAM. I think Kevin Manion and Truex are as skilled and fluid as Chad Knauss and Johnson. Remember, the #1 team is the same exact team, the same exact members, that won two Busch series championships. If NASCAR truly is a team sport, as the #48 team can make a credible argument for, the #1 team is going to have to be reckoned with. Perhaps before the end of the year.

So who then really is the next Jeff Gordon? Who has the best overall balance? I would argue Denny Hamlin. Give him a better team and equipment, a few more years of maturity, and I think he is every bit a superstar as Flash.

In the meantime, let’s get Shrub into DEI equipment, and Junior into HMS, and get some questions answered!

And someone please find out if Truex is now in the DEI’s top equipment.

Kevin Walker, Wheaton, IL

14 posted on 06/20/2007 1:48:27 PM PDT by fideist (Proud father of a U.S. Marine.)
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So who then really is the next Jeff Gordon? Who has the best overall balance? I would argue Denny Hamlin. Give him a better team and equipment, a few more years of maturity, and I think he is every bit a superstar as Flash.

Yeah, ditto what you said. He's pretty likable too.

15 posted on 06/20/2007 2:06:49 PM PDT by umgud ("When illegals are banned, only greedy businesses and welfare providers will have them)
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To: fideist

As a NASCAR Weekend Warrior I can’t fault that. Most everything he says has merit especially the drivers mental state.We’ll see how this all plays out in the near future and next year...


16 posted on 06/20/2007 2:29:49 PM PDT by tubebender (Large reward for person offering leads to my missing tag lines...)
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To: So Cal Rocket

The best part of the road races are the Said Heads!


17 posted on 06/20/2007 2:35:41 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Wolfstar

WOW...Congrats to the Gordons...their little girl is blessed with good parents, that will stay together I HOPE! She and Little Sam Woods..born with a couple of days of each other! Doesn’t Jeff live in FLA? too?

G


18 posted on 06/20/2007 3:20:48 PM PDT by GRRRRR ("We the people..." say NO AMNESTY!!!)
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Jeff and Ingrid live in New York City, although they have a place in the Charlotte, NC area.

It's a shame the Woods named their baby girl with a boy's name. Samantha would have been better, and they could have called her Sam for short. Let the little girl have her femininity, even thought she was named for granddad. Oh well.

19 posted on 06/20/2007 3:28:50 PM PDT by Wolfstar (If ye break faith with us who die, We shall not sleep, though poppies grow in Flanders fields.)
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To: umgud; fideist

Denny Hamlin had my vote as a driver to watch as well, but his recent behavior, blaming everyone around him and moping around have turned me off in a big way.

Caveat, I am a Gordon and a Junior fan! They just made it harder on me. Stewart lost me a while back and even my TS fan wife is starting to dislike his outbursts and wrecking ways.


20 posted on 06/20/2007 3:33:40 PM PDT by USAFJeeper
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