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To: Sturm Ruger

While I oppose the President on the border issue and amnesty, let’s be fair.

Newt himself blew it when he went after Clinton’s affair with Monica instead of Ron Brown, TWA Flt 800, Chicom bribes and campaign cash, Waco massacre, Ruby Ridge, etc, etc. Then Newt resigning for the very issue we were confronting Clinton on...

Trent Lott was another blower for us. His power share deal with Tommy Daschole was a joke! It certainly didn’t help the conservative movement to have such a weak sister leading the Senate.

The Abramhoff and Foley “scandals” were solely the inventions of the MSM-DNC. If not, then why after the 2006 elections, did they faded off the radar faster than a UFO in a Sci-fi movie?

Killing lots of terrorists in Iraq vice here at home is still a good idea. What’s bad is not closing the borders. for this Bush gets a C-, but not a complete fail.


19 posted on 06/21/2007 10:46:13 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!
Newt didn’t go after Clinton’s affair with Monica. He went after a President that lied under oath and who conspired to deprive another citizen of her day in court. There is a huge difference.
22 posted on 06/21/2007 11:14:38 AM PDT by jwparkerjr
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To: Alas Babylon!

The no child left behind bill, the prescription bill, the failure to make tax cuts permanent and the mismanagement of the war (making our guys stand trial for the murder of civilians during engagements) mark Bush as a failed president. The loss of the house and senate can be laid at his door also. However, this immigration bill puts him on the level of Jimmy Carter. I would say they are both tied for the worst president ever to serve in my lifetime award.


23 posted on 06/21/2007 11:30:16 AM PDT by nyconse
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To: Alas Babylon!
The Abramhoff and Foley “scandals” were solely the inventions of the MSM-DNC. If not, then why after the 2006 elections, did they faded off the radar faster than a UFO in a Sci-fi movie?

How were they an invention by the MSM-DNC? Are you saying they never happened?

Everyone associated with the Foley scandal was Republican - Foley, Hastert, Boehner, Tom Reynolds, the house clerk, etc. Whatever happened to Foley; he was supposed to have checked into rehab (for alcohol, no less) for a month (to avoid the press presumably) but don't know what happened to him after that.

As far as the Abrimoff scandal goes, it is not on the front page very much but it is still ongoing. I think Abrimoff is still cooperating. One of the latest to be caught up in it was J. Stephen Griles, who pleaded guilty of obstruction of justice back in March.

25 posted on 06/21/2007 12:52:55 PM PDT by lstock
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To: Alas Babylon!
in much agreement with your thoughts, except for this:

Then Newt resigning for the very issue we were confronting Clinton on...

He went after Clinton lying under oath in court....not adultery. Newt did bring about his own down fall by losing the faith of the GOP congress that he led and showed a series of character flaws along the way. He was a great leader of the party in vision and message, but did not manage the power very well. Other than that, you made many excellent points. A lot of the things that led to the down fall were false 'scandals' du jure that were aimed at accomplishing a GOP loss. From Iaq coverage to Katrina blame game to the Abramoff and Foley. The PR against the right in the past four years is unprecedented, for certain. Worse yet, the counter campaign has been, uh, lacking.

35 posted on 06/21/2007 4:13:39 PM PDT by ilgipper
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