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NATO Accuses Taliban of Using Children in Suicide Missions (Bomb Defused on Six-Year-Old Boy)
The Guardian ^ | Saturday June 23, 2007 | Chiade O'Shea

Posted on 06/23/2007 8:38:34 AM PDT by DogByte6RER

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To: DogByte6RER
islam (hissss-slam) n The Serpent's [Satan's] final offer via his last prophet.
21 posted on 06/23/2007 9:56:54 AM PDT by null and void (Tired of living in the shadows? Move to Sunny Mexico!)
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To: DogByte6RER

where is the lib/dem left being outraged by these muzzie terrorist animals using children!!!

oh..that’s right...too busy trying to get all the illegals the rights of US citizens along with the no cajones republicans led by jorge bush!!!


22 posted on 06/23/2007 10:48:23 AM PDT by nyyankeefan
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To: DogByte6RER

NATO? Big hairy deal... when will the UN get bent out of shape about this?


23 posted on 06/23/2007 10:49:08 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: asp1

demons


24 posted on 06/23/2007 10:50:02 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: asp1
*shrug* Even we have our occasional nutter who will 'send a child to heaven':

Come little daughter, I said to the youngest one,
Put your coat on, we'll have some fun.
We'll go out to mountains, the one to explore.
Her face then lit up, I was standing by the door.
Her face then lit up, I was standing by the door.

Come little daughter, I will carry the lanterns.
We'll go out tonight, we'll go to the caverns.
We'll go out tonight, we'll go to the caves.
Kiss your mother goodnight and remember that God saves.
Kiss your mother goodnight and remember that God saves.

A led her to a hole, a deep black well.
I said make a wish, make sure and not tell and
close you're eyes dear, and count to seven.
You know your papa loves you, good children go to heaven.
You know your papa loves you, good children go to heaven.

I gave her a push, I gave her a shove.
I pushed with all my might, I pushed with all my love.
I threw my child into a bottomless pit.
She was screaming as she fell, but I never heard her hit.
She was screaming as she fell, but I never heard her hit.

But, thank God, we are ashamed of them, Thank God our god is God and not allah, that our society's highest sacraments is not tricking the innocents into murdering other innocents.

25 posted on 06/23/2007 11:13:03 AM PDT by null and void (Tired of living in the shadows? Move to Sunny Mexico!)
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To: asp1

These psychopathic killers get a bigger thrill out of killing their own children than they get out of killing strangers. Their religion worships the thrill of the kill.


26 posted on 06/23/2007 11:14:44 AM PDT by abclily
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This IS a Gaurdian article, but do you notice the propogandic disclaimer “Coalition forces CLAIMED...”???

They are forced to report, but IMMEDIATELY bury it with that disclaimer, followed by old news civilian casualty numbers to drop it’s importance.

THIS IS OLD SCHOOL PROPOGANDA CONTROL...


27 posted on 06/23/2007 11:19:04 AM PDT by tcrlaf (VOTE DEM! You'll Look GREAT In A Burqa!)
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28 posted on 06/23/2007 11:42:24 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass ( just b/c, you suffer from paranoia, doesn't mean they're not out to get you....Run, Fred, Run :^)
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29 posted on 06/23/2007 11:52:32 AM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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NATO blames Taliban for 25 civilian dead, saying it started battle around family compounds

http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/06/23/news/nation/1_00_006_22_07.txt

By: FISNIK ABRASHI - Associated Press

KABUL, Afghanistan — NATO accused Taliban fighters Friday of provoking an airstrike that reportedly killed 25 innocents, including three infants and nine women, while a Dutch general charged that insurgents executed villagers during another battle.

The allegations come amid a new surge of criticism over civilian deaths during attacks by foreign forces — a debate that underlines how the five-year-old war against insurgents is also a struggle for hearts and minds among long-suffering Afghans and voters in NATO nations.

President Hamid Karzai and others have long complained that civilian losses in NATO or U.S.-led operations are undermining the effort to stabilize Afghanistan and prevent a Taliban comeback. The deaths are “difficult for us to accept or understand,” Karzai said Thursday.

NATO commanders are adamant that the militants — not foreign forces — deserve most of the blame for the toll among civilians, and said the overnight bloodshed in southern Helmand province was just such a case.

An alliance statement said NATO aircraft struck after Taliban fighters attacked troops from NATO’s International Security Assistance Force nine miles northeast of the town of Gereshk.

“A compound was assessed to have been occupied by up to 30 insurgent fighters, most of whom were killed in the engagement,” the statement said.

Lt. Col. Mike Smith, a NATO spokesman, expressed concern about Afghan police reports that civilians also died in the airstrike. But he said insurgents chose the time and place for their attack, so “the risk to civilians was probably deliberate.”

“It is this irresponsible action that may have led to casualties,” he said.

The airstrike killed 20 militants, but it also wiped out two civilian families totaling 25 people, including nine women, three babies and a mullah, provincial Police Chief Mohammad Hussein Andiwal told The Associated Press.

“NATO was targeting the areas where the (insurgent) fire was coming from ... and two compounds were completely destroyed, and the families living in those compounds were killed,” he said.

Military commanders said their forces have to be free to respond to attacks.

“If someone is firing at our troops they have the right to defend themselves and have the right to fire at a position which is firing at them,” said another NATO spokesman, Maj. John Thomas. “If the enemy has put themselves in an area where they are firing from among civilians, this is when we sometimes have casualties.”

Thomas said NATO forces try to monitor a target from the air and ground for any civilians present. “But in the cases like (Gereshk), when we respond to an ambush or an enemy attack, things move a little bit more quickly,” he said.

The police chief said villagers loaded the bodies onto tractor trailers to take them to Helmand’s capital, Lashkar Gah, to prove they were innocent victims. But police turned them back, fearing unrest in town, and the bodies were buried in graves near their village, Andiwal said.

It was impossible to verify his account of what happened in the remote area.

Andiwal also said NATO did not consult with Afghan authorities before the airstrike — a demand repeatedly made by Karzai.

“They never talked with us, no consultation, no discussion,” Andiwal said.

If confirmed, the casualties in Gereshk would bring the number of civilians killed in NATO or U.S.-led military operations this year to 177, according to an AP tally of figures provided by Afghan officials and witnesses. Militant attacks, including suicide bombings, have killed 169 civilians.

The Gereshk clash followed reports that dozens of civilians died in fighting earlier this week between Taliban militants and Afghan and Dutch soldiers east of Helmand, in Uruzgan province.

NATO acknowledged Thursday that civilians might have died during the three-day battle to repel an attempt by hundreds of militants to seize Chora district.

On Friday, Gen. Dick Berlijn, commander of the Dutch military, painted the militants as murderous desperadoes.

Taliban fighters tried to force villagers to fight alongside them “and killed citizens who refused — they were hauled out of their houses by the Taliban and executed,” Berlijn told reporters in The Hague, Netherlands.

“One police checkpoint commander saw two brothers murdered before his eyes by the Taliban,” Berlijn said. Another police report “said that eight women were murdered — they had their throats slashed,” he added.

He described the police reports as “solid,” but offered no independent confirmation.

The Dutch mission in Afghanistan is due to finish in August 2008 and lawmakers and the government will debate in coming weeks whether to extend their mandate.

After weeks of heated debate in parliament last year, the troops were sent with the primary task of rebuilding the war-shattered country, but Berlijn conceded that work cannot always be carried out.

“The motto of our mission is, ‘Rebuild if we can, fight if we must,”’ he said. “In recent days in Chora, we have fought.”

— Associated Press writers Amir Shah in Kabul and Mike Corder in The Hague, Netherlands, contributed to this report.


30 posted on 06/23/2007 11:56:28 AM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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Christ, the Taliban fears little Jolene?????!!!
What a bunch of pussies!!!!!


31 posted on 06/23/2007 12:01:39 PM PDT by supremedoctrine (The only thing sourdough bread is good for is a grilled cheese sandwich.For that, it's essential.)
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All the more reason that the Taliban, AL Qaeda, Islamic Jihadists in general should be obliterated: oddly enough, “for the children” , for these same children described in this piece that they use as sacrificial lambs. There is something unfathomably inhuman about them, and the more we hear of their behavior the more I think there is no solution for them but a slow and relentless destruction.It would be better as a quick and relentless destruction, but we no longer do things that way. Hitler had the same feeling about the Jews as Islamic Jihad:the post-war Jews in their identity as Israelis have been strong enough to know who their enemy is, and to go against him as best as their “leaders” have allowed them to. Islamic Jihadists, fighting under whatever banner, are the New Nazis and should be dealt with accordingly.


32 posted on 06/23/2007 12:14:20 PM PDT by supremedoctrine (The only thing sourdough bread is good for is a grilled cheese sandwich.For that, it's essential.)
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You’re talking about an inter-cranial hot lead injection as a cure?


33 posted on 06/23/2007 7:26:54 PM PDT by abclily
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BTT


34 posted on 06/24/2007 3:15:34 PM PDT by supremedoctrine (The only thing sourdough bread is good for is a grilled cheese sandwich.For that, it's essential.)
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jihad bump


35 posted on 06/25/2007 6:16:34 PM PDT by Dajjal
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No...because I AM one ;-)


36 posted on 06/25/2007 6:31:41 PM PDT by NordP (The greatest gift God can give us is LIFE. The greatest gift man can give to another is FREEDOM.)
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