Ok. I never claimed the sun was the center of the universe. It's clearly not. In fact, on the scale of the whole universe, according to GR, there is no center.
The earth isn't any sort of special reference system, at all, though, unless you're on earth. It's not the 'center' of anything, in any sort of physical sense.
Calling the Coriolis force and centrifugal forces on earth real, though? That's ridiculous - these forces appear in any rotating reference system. We can see the Coriolis effect on Jupiter from here. From Jupiter, one could observe the Coriolis effect on a rotating earth. The earth is just as relative a coordinate system as any other, in a physical sense.
Haven't been dodging it at all. As I have said over and over and over and over, you have to go outside the universe and look back to answer it.
So there's no reason to consider an earth-centered reference system as any more "real" than any other, then. Not really any point in any of this.
I never said you did. I am speaking of the heliocentric model that ignores the rest of the universe. You know, the commonly accepted heliocentric model.
"So there's no reason to consider an earth-centered reference system as any more "real" than any other, then. Not really any point in any of this."
The point has always been to show that the geocentric model is just as acceptable as the heliocentric model. People think that the heliocentric model has been 'proved' and that the geocentric model is therefore invalid. All I have been saying all along is that is not the case. The heliocentric model has not been 'proved' and the geocentric model is still valid.