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To: tacticalogic
Matter: "the substance of which a physical object is composed" -- doesn't define what the "substance" is.

Matter: "material substance that occupies space and has weight, that constitutes the observable universe, and that together with energy forms the basis of objective phenomena" -- same objection.

Webster's Dictionary isn't terribly helpful here. Especially in light of the "together with energy" language (as if matter and energy were completely discrete phenomena).... plus the fact that it adds several definitions for matter that are plainly philosophical: "the indeterminate subject of reality; esp : the element in the universe that undergoes formation and alteration"; or "the formless substratum of all things which exists only potentially and upon which form acts to produce realities." Etc.

301 posted on 06/29/2007 12:10:59 PM PDT by betty boop ("Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." -- A. Einstein)
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To: betty boop; hosepipe

It appears that we’re down to not even being willing to accept the existing definitons of the terms as sufficient to provide a basis for discourse.


303 posted on 06/29/2007 12:25:32 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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