[tacticalogic]

It does seem that occasionally there is some assumed point of agreement that provides a basis to start a discussion, only to find after much time spent what originally appeared to be agreement was only accidental by way of misunderstanding, and the whole exercise was for naught.

[js1138]

t does seem that occasionally there is some assumed point of agreement that provides a basis to start a discussion, only to find after much time spent what originally appeared to be agreement was only accidental by way of misunderstanding, and the whole exercise was for naught.

This kind of "philosophy" is just public mental masturbation. Toss out an unsolvable problem and invent an imaginary friend who just happens to have the magic caulk that fills the holes in the argument. Then declare victory.

If every "thing" requires a cause, then presto, by decree, God isn't a "thing." We can all have IQs above room temperature if we just close our eyes and believe.

[hosepipe]

[... It does seem that occasionally there is some assumed point of agreement that provides a basis to start a discussion, only to find after much time spent what originally appeared to be agreement was only accidental by way of misunderstanding, and the whole exercise was for naught. ..]

I see.. the "Observer Problem" I think you've got it..
You may have backed over it and tripped.. ;)

[RightWhale]

Yes. It doesn’t take long. It is amusing to observe some who continue to imagine they are in agreement after months of daily posts and you know they aren’t but you tune in now and then to see how long it will continue.