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To: GunRunner; Alamo-Girl
==It would seem that if your scientific credibility is being criticized, it is being done because the final arbiter for you seems to be not logic or reason, but of faith and divine; two things that are unknowable and unprovable through empirical scientific means.

Actually, if understand Kurt Godel correctly (one of the most significant logicians of all time), he showed that a combination of simple self-evident axioms demands that we acknowledge the existence of true ‘supernatural’ theorems whose truth can never be proven directly. If true, Godel has demonstrated that science can indeed study certain aspects of the supernatural. And as far as I know, Godel has not been disproven.

522 posted on 07/02/2007 11:27:19 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
If true, Godel has demonstrated that science can indeed study certain aspects of the supernatural.

Sure it can. Ghost hunters use thermal vision and thermometers to look for ghosts.

But, since there is no such thing ghosts, they have yet to come up with any scientific proof.

526 posted on 07/02/2007 11:42:50 AM PDT by GunRunner (Come on Fred, how long are you going to wait?)
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To: GodGunsGuts
he showed that a combination of simple self-evident axioms demands that we acknowledge the existence of true ‘supernatural’ theorems

No, he didn't.

541 posted on 07/02/2007 12:32:24 PM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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