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To: tpaine
We can acknowledge God and moral codes; - while we honor our Constitution as the supreme Law of the Land; - the two concepts are not incompatible.

You and I agree on this point. However, the further point is where do you think we have derived our "Constitutional" premises from?

What I am saying is this "Idea Of America" was set up by incorperating the foundational precepts of the Judeo/Christian God. The whole IDEA is built around acknowledging God and his precepts because God gives free-will, but with responsibility and accountability. There is no other system better equipt to develope a prospering society. That was the genuis of the forefathers because they so readily recognized and accepted what is good and incorperated it! Take the responsibility and accountability out of the equation of God's precepts and you will get failure every time! Honoring our constitution with the correct understanding actually runs hand in hand with honoring God. And make no mistake, God's truth is the central theme around our constitutional gov't.

45 posted on 06/24/2007 2:02:49 PM PDT by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: sirchtruth
- We constitutionalists ~insist~ upon certain freedoms. -
- One of which is to be free from fanatics who demand that we acknowledge a specific 'moral majorities code'. - Such as the socialists code, or a specific religions code.

Remember, we're talking within a moral/law context of society.

No, in our Republic, we're talking within a constitutional/law context for society.

Pretty soon it will be America if we don't go back to acknowledge who ultimately gives us our freedom instead of relying on some secularists idea of what a "moral code" should be...

Your, - "Who ultimately gives us our freedom" is a telling line. - We ~fought~ for our freedom from men who thought their God gave them the power to rule. Our constitution ended the concept of religious qualifications for office.

The idea of America can not and will not survive without acknowledging God and his morale code.

We can acknowledge God and moral codes; - while we honor our Constitution as the supreme Law of the Land; - the two concepts are not incompatible.

You and I agree on this point.

If noticed that you've ignored all my previous points above, which leads me to doubt that you really agree.

However, the further point is where do you think we have derived our "Constitutional" premises from?

Any student of the Constitution is aware that non religious [even pagan] greco-roman/nordic traditions and premises were used in the reasoning behind our Constitution, and its rejection of religious/political ties. [no religious qualifications for office, as above]

What I am saying is this "Idea Of America" was set up by incorperating the foundational precepts of the Judeo/Christian God.

You are wrong. We built our idea upon insuring that inalienable individual rights to life, liberty, or property, will not be infringed.

The whole IDEA is built around acknowledging God and his precepts because God gives free-will, but with responsibility and accountability.

Nothing in the Constitution itself supports your theory. The founders were quite clear that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, --" or prohibiting its free exercise.

There is no other system better equipt to develope a prospering society.

States that support specific religions have been a source of much of the worlds misery & war. The Islamic states we are currently fighting are a case in point.

That was the genuis of the forefathers because they so readily recognized and accepted what is good and incorperated it!

Into the constitution? - 'Incorporated' what?

Take the responsibility and accountability out of the equation of God's precepts and you will get failure every time! Honoring our constitution with the correct understanding actually runs hand in hand with honoring God. And make no mistake, God's truth is the central theme around our constitutional gov't.

Please, post your cites of "Gods truth" incorporated within our Constitution. I'd really like to see them enumerated.

47 posted on 06/24/2007 3:14:54 PM PDT by tpaine (" My most important function on the Supreme Court is to tell the majority to take a walk." -Scalia)
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