Posted on 06/24/2007 3:59:54 PM PDT by RedRover
During a recent hearing at Camp Pendleton, a military prosecutor made a frank admission: He had no idea whether several Iraqi witnesses would come to the United States to testify against a Marine accused of executing three Iraqi civilians. Those witnesses are a significant part of the prosecution's case against Lance Cpl. Justin Sharratt. He is one of several Marines accused of embarking on a killing spree in the city of Haditha after a fellow Marine was killed in a roadside bomb blast.
Two dozen Iraqis died during the Nov. 19, 2005, incident.
The prosecutor's acknowledgment underscores one of the biggest hurdles in handling any war-crimes case stemming from the Iraq conflict: Crucial Iraqi witnesses – sometimes the alleged victims – are often unable, unwilling or otherwise unavailable to testify.
Since the war began in 2003, it has been rare, if not unprecedented, for the military to bring Iraqi witnesses to the United States.
In war-crimes cases tried at Camp Pendleton and other bases around the nation, military prosecutors are confronting the same difficulties that civilian prosecutors face in gang-and mob-related trials: Witnesses who won't cooperate, suddenly disappear or end up dead.
Amid the violence in their homeland, some Iraqis fear retribution from fellow countrymen if they are seen cooperating with the United States.
Consider the recent case of a Camp Pendleton Marine accused of beating and severely injuring three Iraqis. One of the Iraqis who cooperated with military investigators was later murdered, said David Sheldon, an attorney for the Marine, 2nd Lt. Nathan Phan.
Another Iraqi witness in the case simply vanished, Sheldon said.
“He slipped under the radar,” said Sheldon, who is based in Washington, D.C.
Even when Iraqis do cooperate, there are language barriers and other cultural issues.
During a court proceeding in the case of William Hunsaker, an Army specialist accused of unlawfully killing three Iraqis last year, one Iraqi witness seemed genuinely confused about the concept of testifying truthfully, said Hunsaker's attorney, Michael Waddington.
The witness eventually agreed to tell the truth, but only if he was given a copy of the Koran first, Waddington said. Then the man refused to touch the Koran until he was properly cleansed.
“They took him to a trailer and gave him a bath,” Waddington said.
Sometimes military prosecutors don't have to worry about Iraqi witnesses because they can prove their cases through other evidence. They have won convictions by using forensic evidence, photographs and testimony from service members who were given immunity.
Those cases include two courts-martial in 2005 at Camp Pendleton for Marines charged in an Iraqi prisoner's death.
It's unclear whether prosecutors have a wide and strong range of evidence against Sharratt and two other enlisted Marines charged with murdering the Haditha civilians.
Testimony from Iraqi witnesses appears particularly important to the Sharratt prosecution. These Iraqis have told investigators that they saw Sharratt help lead four men into a house and then kill them.
According to the military's investigations, Iraqi witnesses also could be pivotal in the case against Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich, who faces 13 counts of murder in connection with the Haditha deaths.
In January, the Washington Post reported that the evidence against Wuterich includes statements given by a 13-year-old girl whose mother, 3-year-old sister, 5-year-old brother and four other relatives were killed by Wuterich and other members of Kilo Company, 3rd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment.
The girl said she survived by playing dead. She told investigators, “(Wuterich) fired and killed everybody. The American fired and killed everybody,” the Post reported.
A Camp Pendleton-based military prosecutor was unavailable for comment on whether the girl or other Iraqis would be available to testify against Wuterich, who is scheduled for a preliminary hearing at Camp Pendleton in August.
In some cases where testimony from Iraqis was vital to the prosecution, judges have held hearings in Iraq so those witnesses would be more inclined to take the stand.
In other cases, including one of the Abu Ghraib prison abuse trials, prosecutors and defense lawyers were allowed to videotape the prisoners' testimony and use that footage during trial.
But several defense lawyers in the Haditha case expressed reservations about holding a court-martial in Iraq or being required to travel to Haditha to videotape the witnesses' testimony.
“If that ever took place, they'd be putting into jeopardy the lives of innocent civilians like me,” said Mark Zaid, one of Wuterich's attorneys. “I'm not going to Iraq.”
Other Haditha stories on the net and elsewhere today (hat tip to ma)...
On the plus side...
On the negative side, two sources are still fuming about today's story in the New York Times, A Marine Tutorial on Media ‘Spin’
Another Iraqi witness in the case simply vanished, Sheldon said. “He slipped under the radar,” said Sheldon, who is based in Washington, D.C.
The investigators have slipped under the radar.
Mainly because they can't keep their lies straight.
Yo, Red. Scroll down to the third story-Lucian Reed. The link at the bottom now goes nowhere.
And now the coward McGirk, who was a scared bunny in Iraq, has turned yellow again and refuses to testify at the trial of the Marines he helped set up. Wow... What a scumbag... The perfect "face" of the fading TIME Magazine.
Timmy McGirk
Gee, no agenda here. And they wonder why the Marines reacted to mcgirk the way they did. Any other action would make them complicit in their own lynching.
I am proud of the Marines for realizing what a scumbag McGirk is and recognizing the truth about the media’s reports from Iraq. If IraqSlogger and Greg Mitchell had any shame whatsoever, they would be hanging their heads and being our soldiers and Marines for forgiveness. They are just mad they got caught.
I did notice that the Slimes didn’t bother to print the WHOLE memo which specified the true nature of McGirk’s “sources”... Nor did they mention that McGirk refuses to testify cause he’s a big fat liar...
Really? Then why are you able to spew this comment if you are dead?
The good news is that the media sees itself losing, so it’s piling up evidence to use to continue to trumpet the mythical “Haditha Massacre” even if the trials don’t take place, or if the soldiers are tried and found innocent.
The issue is NOT the lack of witnesses. The problem with the socialist/liberal/Murtha persecution of these Marines is that the evidence exhonerates the Marines. They can impeach all of the witnesses. They can show the veracity of the Marines’ stories by matching bullet holes and trajectories with laser. They can look at intel reports. They can look at the other events of that entire day in Haditha with this unit and others.
They are preparing to lose, but they’re also preparing a world-class excuse for why they’re really right and the Marines are really wrong. And since the media controls the media, their story will get out.
America continues to need a fast, truthful form of disseminating factual information. It does not exist yet, so the media gets to set the ground rules for any discussion.
I see it exactly the same way, padre.
This article, of course, also doesn’t mention that many of the so-called “witnesses” did not see the events. They are doing what people do: repeating what they’ve heard. Much of their testimony, especially regarding the actions in house number four, would never stand up under cross-examination.
Knowing this, our government would never want Iraqis to be ripped apart on the witness stand in a courtroom. How would that look? < sigh >
The prosecution is preparing for defeat, as you say. And a substantial percentage of the population (even inside the Corps) will always think there was a massacre in Haditha.
PS. I heard once that half the population believes that Joanne of Arc was Noah’s wife. ;)
Boy, that does NOT sound like Lucian Read. I’ve never heard him say anything like that in any other media source. I very much doubt it’s truthful.
Translation: the witnesses were all terrorists and would be exposed in trial.
Pray for W and Our Marines
Maybe NCIS wrote statements that witnesses would have said if they had survived. Sounds perfectly reasonable to me.
By the way, I’m sooooooo disappointed we haven’t seen NCIS agent Kelly Garbo at the hearings. She’s always good for some merry japes.
I, for one, would have loved that to happen! I think most of the defense lawyers would have, too!
Amen that.
What are the possibilities some of those “witnesses” were killed in other firefights??
Pray for W and Our Marines
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