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To: Brilliant
AMD stole it from Intel, though.

AMD stole nothing.

Intel granted AMD generous licensing deals early on when the were helping provide extra manufacturing capacity for Intel. AMD eventually had to distance itself from copied x86 microcode, which they did. AMD's is now a completely independent, unique implementation of the x86 instruction set, and has been for years.

Interestingly, with the advent of 64-bit x86 processing, AMD turned the tables and became the leader. They released a 64-bit consumer CPU--the Opteron--onto the market in 2003, before Intel, so Intel was essentially forced by the market to make their 64-bit x86 instruction set "AMD compatible".

14 posted on 06/26/2007 7:41:23 AM PDT by TChris (The Republican Party is merely the Democrat Party's "away" jersey - Vox Day)
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To: TChris
Interestingly, with the advent of 64-bit x86 processing, AMD turned the tables and became the leader. They released a 64-bit consumer CPU--the Opteron--onto the market in 2003, before Intel, so Intel was essentially forced by the market to make their 64-bit x86 instruction set "AMD compatible".

And for that, I thank them. Intel kept going down the Itanium road until AMD beat them and they were forced to design X86 64 bit processors.

19 posted on 06/26/2007 7:49:54 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: TChris

you can also add to that the latest intel offering is close to what AMD had in the socket A processors and in the banyas pentium mobiles, short fat pipelines, instead of long skinny pipelines, sure they could go really fast, but that also meant a long recovery if the wrong instruction occurred...


26 posted on 06/26/2007 9:08:20 AM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: TChris
Intel is at leas a year ahead of AMD. Intel will produce 45 NM processors this year. A year in this field is like a century. AMD however is ahead of the rest of the world, even China that they are giving away their technology to.

Wonder where governments and government Universities are in this compared to American based corporations like Intel and AMD : They are way behind and in the dark ages, actually the cave men days copying what Intel did 10 years ago. Government/Socialism doesn’t work.

28 posted on 06/26/2007 9:24:10 AM PDT by rurgan (socialism doesn't work. Government is the problem not the solution to our problems.)
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To: TChris
Intel is at least a year ahead of AMD. Intel will produce 45 NM processors this year. A year in this field is like a century. AMD however is ahead of the rest of the world, even China that they are giving away their technology to.

Wonder where governments and government Universities are in this compared to American based corporations like Intel and AMD : They are way behind and in the dark ages, actually the cave men days copying what Intel did 10 years ago. Government/Socialism doesn’t work.

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2087985,00.asp

Intel unveiled details of its next-generation Core 2 processors, code-named "Penryn," to the technology press on Thursday.

Just as AMD catches up with Intel by moving to a 65 nm process technology, Intel is poised to push ahead to 45 nm. According to Intel Vice President Steve Smith, Intel's new 45 nm CPUs are slated to begin production sometime in the second half of 2007. The company is readying three 45 nm fabs by 2008: The D1D fab in Oregon and Fab 32 in Arizona are slated for 45 nm production before the end of the year, while a third, Fab 28 will come online in Israel sometime during the first half of 2008. The 45 nm fabs will be added to the existing 65 nm fab facilities, and all are capable of using 300mm wafers.

Intel demonstrated five working systems, borrowed from its own qualification labs, running 45 nm CPUs of different flavors, including a laptop. Another pair of systems represented typical desktop PCs, including a dual-core and a quad-core system. Two additional dual-socket, workstation-class systems were also on show, including a dual-socket system with two quad-core CPU


31 posted on 06/26/2007 9:30:13 AM PDT by rurgan (socialism doesn't work. Government is the problem not the solution to our problems.)
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Intel is at least a year ahead of AMD. Intel will produce 45 NM processors this year. A year in this field is like a century. AMD however is ahead of the rest of the world, even China that they are giving away their technology to.

Wonder where governments and government Universities are in this compared to American based corporations like Intel and AMD : They are way behind and in the dark ages, actually the cave men days copying what Intel did 10 years ago. Government/Socialism doesn’t work.

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2087985,00.asp

Intel unveiled details of its next-generation Core 2 processors, code-named "Penryn," to the technology press on Thursday.

Just as AMD catches up with Intel by moving to a 65 nm process technology, Intel is poised to push ahead to 45 nm. According to Intel Vice President Steve Smith, Intel's new 45 nm CPUs are slated to begin production sometime in the second half of 2007. The company is readying three 45 nm fabs by 2008: The D1D fab in Oregon and Fab 32 in Arizona are slated for 45 nm production before the end of the year, while a third, Fab 28 will come online in Israel sometime during the first half of 2008. The 45 nm fabs will be added to the existing 65 nm fab facilities, and all are capable of using 300mm wafers.

Intel demonstrated five working systems, borrowed from its own qualification labs, running 45 nm CPUs of different flavors, including a laptop. Another pair of systems represented typical desktop PCs, including a dual-core and a quad-core system. Two additional dual-socket, workstation-class systems were also on show, including a dual-socket system with two quad-core CPU

AMD doesn't even have a test 45 nm CPU yet do they? Make that Intel is 2 to 3 years ahead of AMD.

32 posted on 06/26/2007 9:33:32 AM PDT by rurgan (socialism doesn't work. Government is the problem not the solution to our problems.)
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