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To: noiseman
However, I don't think it is "hyperventilating" to point out that he has abandoned his conservative base on this issue, and that his actions constitute a DIRECT AND SERIOUS breach of his oath of office. As has been pointed out many times, if our elected officials, particularly the Executive Branch, in whom the power to defend the United States is vested, refuse to repel foreign invaders and to secure the Nation's borders, they have committed what arguably could be an impeachable offense.

I can appreciate people being upset or let down on where GWB stands on this issue (in believing a comprehensive bill is the way to go, instead fixing things issue by issue ...that is related to the whole immigration / border security, visa problems.

With that being said, every POTUS since FDR (most certainly Nixon, JC, R. Reagan, Bush Sr) should have all been impeached....Taking your position above. Most certainly R. Reagan.

And that just doesn't pass the reality test. Hell, it could (likely should) be argued that R. Reagan should have demanded more back in 86 when it was a much more manageable problem (ditto that for Soc Security). Yet they were pushed down the road only to become what they are today.

Lets also be clear, immigration was not a huge issue in either 00 or 04. It simply was not.

279 posted on 06/28/2007 12:47:35 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: DevSix
"With that being said, every POTUS since FDR (most certainly Nixon, JC, R. Reagan, Bush Sr) should have all been impeached....Taking your position above. Most certainly R. Reagan.

Perhaps, but if you research impeachment you will see that while it is a somewhat objective process, there have been impeachments in the past that have hinged primarily on political passions. I also think, as I said, that we are living in much more serious times, as regards illegal immigration, diversity, multiculturalism, etc. than any of those past Presidents were. One thing Michael Savage, love him or hate him, IS right about is the definition of a nation - common language, borders, and culture. This immigration bill would lay waste to ALL THREE criteria in one fell swoop. If you don't think that is a serious enough threat to consider fighting via ALL available means, and whose supporters deserve immeasurable scorn, then I don't know what else there is to be said.

282 posted on 06/28/2007 12:59:52 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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