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It's Grand Ol' Pro-choice party - poll
The New York Daily News ^ | 6/28/07 | Helen Kennedy

Posted on 06/28/2007 9:15:53 AM PDT by jamese777

The GOP is a lot more liberal than you might think, according to a surprising new poll that finds fully 60% would vote for a pro-choice candidate - great news for front-running Rudy Giuliani.

Republican pollsters Fabrizio, McLaughlin & Associates found Giuliani leading the field with all segments of the party - even among the 24% of so-called "moralists" who are most focused on social issues.

Giuliani's campaign rationale has always been that his reassuring leadership amid the trauma of 9/11 would trump his pro-choice, pro-gay, anti-gun record.

The sweeping survey, a bid to paint an in-depth portrait of the Republican Party, suggests he might be right.

Giuliani leads among even social conservatives because they consider him "a strong leader," said pollster Tony Fabrizio.

While many more Republicans consider themselves "conservative" than did 10 years ago, a remarkable 75% say the party is too focused on social issues. All but the vocal "moralists" call fiscal and security issues more important.

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: electionpresident; fabrizio; goppolls; prolife
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1 posted on 06/28/2007 9:15:56 AM PDT by jamese777
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Who commissioned this poll? It’s not very credible.


2 posted on 06/28/2007 9:18:21 AM PDT by wideawake ("Pearl Harbor is America's fault, right, Mommy?" - Ron Paul, age 6, 12/7/1941)
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To: jamese777
It’s not just abortion that turns me off to Rudy, although it’s a factor.

It’s the fact that he’s:

-pro gay marriage
-supports government funded abortion, an assault on two facets of conservatism (fiscal and social)
-has no problem with using statist methods to achieve his goals
-is the quintessential opportunist (running on his 9/11 heroism and nothing else)
-makes most “big government conservatives” look like Tom Tancredo
-Has no inclination at all of securing the border
-Has a horribly chaotic family life

3 posted on 06/28/2007 9:18:48 AM PDT by RockinRight (FRedOn. Apply Directly To The White House!)
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To: jamese777
"..fully 60% would vote for a pro-choice candidate.."


4 posted on 06/28/2007 9:18:52 AM PDT by Jaxter ("Vivit Post Funera Virtus")
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To: jamese777

I’d love to see the wording of the poll and what they consider the definition of “pro-choice”.


5 posted on 06/28/2007 9:19:34 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a Liberal when I married her.)
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To: jamese777

40% Would Not; me included.


6 posted on 06/28/2007 9:19:38 AM PDT by JSDude1 (Republicans if the don't beware ARE the new WHIGS! (all empty hairpieces..) :).)
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To: jamese777

“...fully 60% would vote for a pro-choice candidate...”

Is this in the primaries or in the general election?

It’s not too impressive in the primaries, in that it indicates that the potential nominee can’t get the support of a substantial minority of the party.

But if this is for the general election, it’s disastrous for pro-abortion candidates.

No Republican could possibly win a general election while losing 40% of the Republican vote.

Yikes.


7 posted on 06/28/2007 9:22:07 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: jamese777

In my latest poll 100% reject Rootie.


8 posted on 06/28/2007 9:23:29 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: jamese777
The GOP is a lot more liberal than you might think, according to a surprising new poll that finds fully 60% would vote for a pro-choice candidate - great news for front-running Rudy Giuliani.

LOL Well, since Rudy has lost a lot of ground and is actually running behind Thompson in some polls, it would seem to me that this 'poll' is faulty.

9 posted on 06/28/2007 9:25:00 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: RockinRight

The fact that Giuliani does not respect the principles of the consitution should be a key issue for Republican primary voters.


10 posted on 06/28/2007 9:27:14 AM PDT by GregH
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To: GregH

Well, all those points I listed kinda go along with that!

Can’t believe I forgot the Second Amendment in that list!


11 posted on 06/28/2007 9:32:15 AM PDT by RockinRight (FRedOn. Apply Directly To The White House!)
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To: jamese777

We will se the reality come election day. IMO we will be voting for Fred Thompson.


12 posted on 06/28/2007 9:34:31 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (http://www.imwithfred.com/index.aspx)
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I’m going to tend to vote for a pro-life candidate in a primary. In a general election, if the choice is between a pro-abortion Republican and a Democract who is worse, then I’ll vote for the Republican. A few elections back we had the tables turned here: a pro-life Democrat running for governor who was generally more conservative on key issues than the pro-abortion Republican candidate. I happily voted Democratic because he was far and away the better candidate and, if he had won, he probably would have spared Illinois a considerable amount of grief.

I use that as an example because I think the question “would you vote for a ‘pro-choice’ Republican?” requires an answer more complex than simply “yes” or “no”.


13 posted on 06/28/2007 9:34:34 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (Fred Thompson 2008)
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I heard the president of the Regent University Student Republican Club say, after Rudy’s speech there, that he would consider voting for a pro-choice candidate if the candidate presented strengths in other areas. Go figure.
14 posted on 06/28/2007 9:38:03 AM PDT by HaveHadEnough
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To: RockinRight

Agreed, Giuliani position on abortion and 2nd amendment is simply put - against the constitution. Plus his failed marriages and cheating makes him a lousy candidate.


15 posted on 06/28/2007 9:39:06 AM PDT by GregH
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To: Tanniker Smith

Polls are meaningless in the media. They are very useful in marketing and some other areas. However, what is used in the media is trash and just about as meaningful as another “study” on global warming, acid rain, the coming ice age or ozone hole.


16 posted on 06/28/2007 9:39:22 AM PDT by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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Now factor in the Democrats who will not vote for a Pro-Abortion candidate and it adds up to losing the White House.


17 posted on 06/28/2007 9:51:40 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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The GOP really wants a pro-abortion, global warming nut, big government, tax and spend liberal.


18 posted on 06/28/2007 10:04:58 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: jamese777

Must be dem bezerkley republicans polled!

LLS


19 posted on 06/28/2007 10:06:06 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: Red6
True enough. Let the Dems convince themselves that the nation would vote for a "pro-choice" president. They will be deluded themselves into believing that the conservative folks who don't want to confront the issue and try to find some kind of "fuzzy" grey area, some common, middle ground (in their own minds, mind you) will be able to vote for the whackos that believe that killing a child seconds before birth can be tolerated.

There are self-described conservatives that would be "happy" if they could get abortion limited, as opposed to outlawed, just so they can save some (or most) of the lives being lost now. That would give them the "pro-choice" label in the media's eyes, just to boost those numbers.

There was a nice editorial this past weekend in the NY Daily News about the Dems and abortion. There are liberal Catholics who are liberal on most social issues, but not abortion. Up until recently, there wasn't much to do about it. But they voted for Bush over Kerry because of the Supreme Court. They will put off their own agendas just to get rid of this travesty.

So, yeah, let them believe that the "pro-choice" vote is out there.

20 posted on 06/28/2007 10:06:50 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a Liberal when I married her.)
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