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A Pyrrhic Victory (Sour Grapes from Linda Chavez)
Townhall ^ | June 29, 2007 | Linda Chavez

Posted on 06/29/2007 8:46:21 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia

Immigration reform is dead. But before conservatives who killed this bill start popping champagne corks, they ought to consider the following.

Our borders will be less secure, not more. Employers who want to do the right thing and only hire legal workers won't have the tools to do so. The 12 million illegal aliens who are here now will continue to live in the shadows, making them less likely to cooperate with law enforcement to report crimes and less likely to pay their full share of taxes. In other words, the mess we created by an outdated and ill-conceived immigration policy 20 years ago will just get worse.

But you won't hear this if you tune in to talk radio over the next few days or read conservative blogs. There will be lots of gloating over having killed "amnesty." There will be claims that senators finally "listened to the people." And, no doubt, some conservatives will be emboldened to consider the next step in their war against illegal immigration, namely to deport those now here illegally.

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But none of this matters to the radio talk show hosts who encouraged their millions of listeners to shut down the congressional phone system with calls protesting "amnesty." Nor does it matter to the myriad direct mail outfits opposing immigration, which will reap tens of millions of dollars in donations to fatten their coffers as a result of this "victory."

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; atzlannorte; aztlan; chavez; congress; deathofthegop; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; laraza; lindachavez; mecha; noamnestyforillegals; raza; reconquista; sellout; sellouts; theborg; vampirebill
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To: woofie

‘STFU Linda.
No, she should be heard as well as all other voices’

I did listen. I was informed by Linda I’m a ‘bigot’ and a ‘racist’ among other things. I listened very closely btw.

And having heard her out a couple of weeks back, sorry she needs to STFU. She was wrong with her original position, she was even more wrong about those of us that opposed the Amensty bill, and she remains wrong today as the column demonstrates conclusively.

No need to hear her whining. btw I also heard her on Laura Ingraham’s show right after the column where she described those of us opposed to that horrible legistation as ‘bigots and racists’.

She needs to shut the hell up. She lost, now all she’s doing is delaying the GOP uniting for next years political showdown. And the 2008 election cycle is far more important than the mutterings of Linda the Labeler.


41 posted on 06/29/2007 9:00:13 AM PDT by Badeye ("In 2 weeks, I join the list of UNEMPLOYED". ...Goldi-Lox (karma comes around))
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To: Dane
So does tom tancredo, who BTW, has never had a job in the wealth producing private economy in his professional life.

Neither has Ted Kennedy. He's on your side on this.
42 posted on 06/29/2007 9:01:16 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Scratch a RINO, and you'll find a global elitist beneath the surface.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Unbelievable! She fantasizes about what the bill wouldn’t do (illegal aliens cooperating with law enforcement, borders secured, etc.) and deplores what did happen (Senators reluctantly and fearfully listening to the country).

Ms. Chavez seems to have missed the point of this bill; to facilitate and reward alien invasion of the United States.

Looks like Linda doesn’t understand what it is to be American.

Time to leave, Linda.


43 posted on 06/29/2007 9:01:26 AM PDT by DakotaGator
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To: Badeye

Looks to me like she helped inspire the defeat of the bill


44 posted on 06/29/2007 9:01:59 AM PDT by woofie
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To: flashbunny
I wonder if Dane is Linda Chavez.
45 posted on 06/29/2007 9:02:24 AM PDT by ruination
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
President Bush was a big supporter of this little racist totalitarianette.
46 posted on 06/29/2007 9:04:02 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (The danger - the Tempest - forever is o'er.)
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To: Dane
“So does tom tancredo, who BTW, has never had a job in the wealth producing private economy in his professional life.”

Yup, thank G_D for Tancredo..... he was one of those people who relentlessly fought for the American taxpayer, the legit small business owner...and all those who are pro LEGAL immigration. Tom was and still is on the “right” side of the law....unlike that POS Chavez. He withstood all the slings and arrows of all the illegal apologists and came out smelling like a rose.

47 posted on 06/29/2007 9:04:25 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
But none of this matters to the radio talk show hosts who encouraged their millions of listeners to shut down the congressional phone system with calls protesting "amnesty." Nor does it matter to the myriad direct mail outfits opposing immigration, which will reap tens of millions of dollars in donations to fatten their coffers as a result of this "victory."

Linda, if there is a case to made for the immigration bill, your side failed to make it in a way conservative voters found convincing. This has nothing to do with the Pied Pipers of Talk Radio and everything to do with the perception that the Administration and the Senate were trying to fool the public.

Bush was not being straightforward about his motives, apparently because neither he nor the Senate can state the truth: "We want to allow unrestricted immigration to shore up US enititlement programs and to prevent a Communist revolution in Mexico." Since those arguments - though important to the elites in both nations - aren't going to carry much weight with Americans who are on the wrong end of an MS-13 invasion of their neighborhoods, the Administration and the Senate chose to argue the case in disingenuous terms, and nobody bought it.

48 posted on 06/29/2007 9:04:35 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Savage is probably closer to being right. Still, it’s only one day in a decades-long political battle.


49 posted on 06/29/2007 9:06:15 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
She went around the bend on the last column she wrote as far as I am concerned. And this just proves it.

The numbers of people stating the calls from legal immigrants opposing the AMNESTY scam were overwhelming says Chavez is all wet.

There is nothing wrong with a country that does not want open borders and these elites will never understand that.

50 posted on 06/29/2007 9:06:36 AM PDT by Tarpon
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To: MrB
Hey Linda - what we DON’T want is a “comprehensive” bill.

I've said it before: expecting a "comprehensive" immigration bill to handle our current problems is like giving your kid green beans, chicken nuggets and ice cream for dinner and being surprised that he is too stuffed to eat the green beans (oh, and give me more ice cream!).

51 posted on 06/29/2007 9:07:24 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (A base looking for a party.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I’ve liked Linda Chavez in the past. I wouldn’t like to see this experience unhinge her so that she goes the way of Arianna Huffington.


52 posted on 06/29/2007 9:07:37 AM PDT by carola
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
opposing immigration

Nobody is even thinking about this, except the author of this simplistic knee-jerk essay.

53 posted on 06/29/2007 9:08:08 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: woofie

‘Looks to me like she helped inspire the defeat of the bill’

Indeed.

Insulting your own base used to be viewed as political stupidity.

Alas, since January of 2005 its apparently become a mainstay of this Administration and the GOP in general.


54 posted on 06/29/2007 9:08:37 AM PDT by Badeye ("In 2 weeks, I join the list of UNEMPLOYED". ...Goldi-Lox (karma comes around))
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To: Linda

Linda has an insecurity problem after taking flak from La Raza back in her Bush Administration days. She is out to prove her Hispanic blood, whatever that is. Linda, La Racists love you now. Relax. Instead of lecturing those of us who know more about this issue than you do, be glad the Republican Party didn’t rip itself completely apart. Bush will have other causes for you to cheer lead.


55 posted on 06/29/2007 9:09:03 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Publius6961
1984 doublespeak... How can it be any less secure than it is now? The existing laws are not being enforced! And there is no assurance whatsoever that the new ones will be enforced either!

There is no penalty, ever, for the bureaucracy ignoring laws that they are Constitutionally obligated to apply. Perhaps that should be an essential part of all laws.

LOL! Absolutely right on target!

You should post that as a response to Linda on Town Hall.

56 posted on 06/29/2007 9:09:13 AM PDT by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Next: that San Diego Tribune `One-Note Juannie” Ruben what’s his nombre will chime in.
He wore his hair-shirt to bed, so was up all night composing a scolding editorial.
Ja Ja! See you the signing esse!


57 posted on 06/29/2007 9:10:31 AM PDT by tumblindice ("Can't we all just get along?"........ No)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Demand a border fence! Build it NOW!! Beef up the border patrol and close our borders!

U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121

U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121

White House comments: (202) 456-1111

Find your House Rep.: http://www.house.gov/writerep

Find your US Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

Toll free to the US Senate:

1-800-882-2005. (Spanish number)
1-800-417-7666. (English number)

Courtesy of a pro-amnesty group, no less!!


58 posted on 06/29/2007 9:11:48 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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To: Dane
Uh I think the "crazed" ones are those who state that her opinons were "bitch slapped".

But what the hey it seems the right has been taken over by the gutter ghetto culture, to the enjoymnet of nancy pelosi.

Did I hurt your widdle feelings by using a bad phrase?

Have you read the Chavez article in question?

59 posted on 06/29/2007 9:12:54 AM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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To: Dane

Have you talked to Chris Cannon yet about this latest smackdown of the Bush/Kennedy/Reid scamnesty? I know how badly you and him wanted to get “Comprehensive Immigration Reform” going in the House and was wondering what the Pillsbury Dough boy’s thoughts were about it.


60 posted on 06/29/2007 9:14:01 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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