[sam_paine]

This ain't 1964 and 1986.

You're right, of course. This isn't '86 or '64.

The illegal problem is orders of magnitude bigger, and growing.

One thing that's similar is that the problem has just been kicked down the road again. Reagan kicked the problem into 2007. Now the problem has been punted to the 2008 prez election and beyond because (1) Bush has no intention of enforcing the border, and (2) no true fix conservative bill is going to pass Pelosi/Reid's morass.

Meanwhile, we're so proud (before the fall).

I've just seen the right 'win' so many times, only to start self-congratulating so much that we immediately lose the initiative. It's the nature of Russell Kirk's "Conservative Mind."

Call me 'negative,' dour, whatever. I just think we're a long way from cheering our way out of this hole.

[Vision Thing]

And I’m trying to tell you we’ve passed the tipping point. Americans aren’t going to take it anymore. June 2007 is the best that the illegals will ever have. It’s all downhill from here for them. The world (including all illegals who are here and all potential illegals sitting outisde of our borders) has never seen Americans stand up for themselves against them until June 2007.

This is what’s different.

For the first time in our nation’s history, not just Conservatives, but most Americans have stopped the feds from coddling the illegals.

Do you think this is going to encourage more aliens from coming here? Do you think this encourages the illegals who are currently here to feel comfortable?

We’re different. And the world has taken notice.

[Vision Thing]

I've just seen the right 'win' so many times, only to start self-congratulating so much that we immediately lose the initiative. It's the nature of Russell Kirk's "Conservative Mind."

Prior to June 2007, when did Conservatives 'win' on the immigration issue?