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China's Utterly Distorted Economy Is a Train Wreck Waiting to Happen
World Tribune ^ | 6/29/07 | Sol Sanders

Posted on 06/30/2007 12:37:30 PM PDT by hardback

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Every event in Red China was (is still) a contemporaneous event for me.

In the beginning it was "agrarian" reform today it's "socialism with Chinese characteristics." In between there have been tens of millions of deaths wrought by Red China's masters and modern mandarins.

It's always been about the Party. Today the Dengist control the Party.

The memory of runaway inflation -- more than events on the battlefield what defeated the Chiang Kai-shek government in its civil war with the Communists -- hovers and any currency manipulation would set off panic.

There are the pesky similarities of corruption and the appearance of too much foreign influence -- there are new problems of environmental destruction, factory deaths and injury, counterfeiting that kills, mass population displacement to make room for projects like dams, and all the factors listed in the article.

How much longer can it last?

21 posted on 06/30/2007 4:40:38 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Clintonfatigued
I've been observing here for some time that China is a false-front economy, largely smoke and mirrors. The ghost skyscrapers of Shanghai, while hundreds of millions live in hovels, are the symbol of the world's largest Potemkin village.
22 posted on 06/30/2007 5:09:01 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Fee
the Chinese language never developed a verb equivalent to the Indo-European languages’ “to be”.

No wonder "their man in Washington" could assert that "it all depends on what the meaning of 'Is' is."

23 posted on 06/30/2007 5:12:00 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: pacelvi

Unfortunately China signed their own death warrant by pursuing the three nuclear shield strategy (help Pakistan get nukes to counter India, help North Korea get nukes to counter US-Japan, and help Iran get nukes to sap US strength by causing mischief in Middle East). The only reason the US has not taken drastic action on China is because in the last 20 years the US has establish deep commercial relations with China and will need time to unwind. The US has establish agreements with Vietnam as the initial steps of making her the alternative low cost manufacturing center and making overtures to India to make her the low cost hi tech manufacturing alternative to China. Today India is about to make a decision on possibly choosing US fighter to replace her aging MiG-21 fighters. This decision is a very important symbol for it marks the first time India will buy US weapons since the beginning of the Cold War. Vietnam and India will become the alternates to China and possible the military counter balance on the Chinese border. Up to this day, China never had to spend a chunk of her defense budget in fielding a med tech army to guard her borders since her reapproachment with the Russians. This has free up her military resources to research advanced weapons and purchase Russian weapons. IMHO twenty years from now, China will collapse financially because the US will shift their manufacturing and services to India and Vietnam and at the same time the arms race from a US armed India and Vietnam will sap her resources. In the end I think China will become unstable, and the US will support Sanjing, Tibet, Inner Mongolia and Taiwan to declare independence. By the end of the 21st Century, China will lose half of her territory and most of her natural resources and be consigned to a Third World nation with pockets of affluent city states. I predict the US will still be a super power at the end of the 21st Century, India will advance and China will fall.


24 posted on 06/30/2007 6:36:07 PM PDT by Fee ( R)
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To: hardback
Does anyone remember back in the ‘80s when Japan (Japan, inc.) was supposed to take over the world?

What ever happened with that?

25 posted on 06/30/2007 6:40:29 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Withhold Taxes - Starve a Liberal)
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To: hardback
I’m no expert on the Chinese economy, but when you start from nothing, you can experience phenomenal growth, but you can’t maintain it.
26 posted on 06/30/2007 6:40:32 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Fee

if the muslims havent nuked us by then.


27 posted on 06/30/2007 6:44:56 PM PDT by pacelvi
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To: Fee

BTTT


28 posted on 06/30/2007 6:52:29 PM PDT by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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To: Lurker

I have heard some of the more credible talking heads say that we could have China on its knees in two years by simply removing MFN. Their entire economic growth is tied to trade with the United States.


29 posted on 06/30/2007 6:57:45 PM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: TBall
those cute little Thomas & Friends toys that American children love so much.

A number of which were recently recalled, as they had lead-based paint used by their Chinese manufacturers. .

30 posted on 06/30/2007 7:14:52 PM PDT by happygrl (Dunderhead for HONOR)
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To: Fee

Good post. Thanks for your insight.


31 posted on 06/30/2007 7:19:24 PM PDT by happygrl (Dunderhead for HONOR)
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To: Fee

Your sceanario is a virtual replay of how the USSR disintegrated. I don’t think it will take 20 years, though. It might happen a lot sooner.


32 posted on 06/30/2007 7:35:38 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name after Harper's election?)
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To: hardback

Very interesting. Thanks for posting.


33 posted on 06/30/2007 7:36:08 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: hardback

Bump


34 posted on 07/01/2007 5:34:15 AM PDT by uglybiker (relaxing in a luxuriant cloud of quality, aromatic, pre-owned tobacco essence)
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To: hardback

Bump


35 posted on 07/01/2007 7:45:16 AM PDT by painter (Oval Office, Fred. Might be something you ought to think about.)
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To: Cowboy Bob
Does anyone remember back in the ‘80s when Japan (Japan, inc.) was supposed to take over the world?

What ever happened with that?

Well, what happened is that they have a lot of foreign assets; in fact, they have the largest net foreign asset position of any nation, as they have had since 1991.

The Bank of Japan's International Investment Position at Year-End 2005 is here. (I believe that the new one will be out soon.)

36 posted on 07/01/2007 7:56:41 AM PDT by snowsislander
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
This article sounds just like a conversation we had circa 2003 or so.

That would've been nice, and I trust I may take it as a compliment, but I am rather afraid you are mistaking either your correspondent or the date...

I joined FR in August 2004. :-)

Cheers!

37 posted on 07/01/2007 2:33:27 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: pacelvi
Does anyone know anyone who is Chinese that exhibits anything that fits the profile of being from a nation bent on world domination?

Are you a troll or are you a Chinese agent?

38 posted on 07/01/2007 2:37:51 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

that was rude.


39 posted on 07/01/2007 2:42:23 PM PDT by pacelvi
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To: pacelvi
Yes, it was.
40 posted on 07/01/2007 3:30:45 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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