What's the Rush?

ProLifeblogs ^ | June 27 2007 | plb

[8mmMauser]

And how much will they take with them when they die? I remember that old adage, “When you die, you can only take with you that which you had given away.”

[wagglebee]

It has been a hundred years since progressives believed in progress.

Look at the progress of the past hundred and fifty years. We have electricity, running water in all homes, telephones, computers, automobiles, airplanes, advances in medicine that have nearly doubled life expectancy, etc. And every bit of this progress has come because of capitalism in a free society and except for some of the medical advances, it has all come from the United States.

Every person on earth is better off because of American freedom and the left just refuses to see it.

[Dante3]

Just horrible.

[TheSpottedOwl]

When my printer still worked, I printed out two copies of the “will to live”. Has it been filled out? Nooooo :(

With “health care professionals” these days, you really have to know how to parse your wishes in a certain fashion. If you think trying to read their writing is bad, just trying cutting through the spoken BS they spew.

[T'wit]

>> “When you die, you can only take with you that which you had given away.”

A glowing insight!

[T'wit]

>> the left just refuses to see it.

The original Marxists were TOTALLY interested in a better life. In material gain. In higher wages and better working conditions. As it turned out, though, not all the pie-in-the-sky promises of Marx and Lenin and Mao and Stalin and Fidel Castro could match the fantastic reality of the world that free markets built. Today's blue collar workers as a class enjoy far greater comforts and wonders than the kings of old.

[T'wit]

Hark, what’s that I hear? I believe intruders have set the hounds a-howling. I suppose I’ll have to go check it out :-)

[kozokey]

Thanks for taking the time to respond!

[kozokey]

Thanks for taking the time to respond!

[kozokey]

Oops—sorry for the duplicate!

[Sun]

8mmMauser explained it well.

[dbehsman]

Continuing simple logic, an antiTerribot is one of “them’, a troll or similar ilk, or one who is on the side of the killing team.

On another thread, if I recall correctly, Hildy used the term "Terribot" when she was particularly shrill one day. I coined the term "deathbot" in response. I think it's a very appropriate description for the monsters who supported executing Terri by starvation.

Evidently Radio Astronomer (so I heard from one of his buddies) flipped out when he read the term "deathbot". I guess some people can't stand what they see as a reflection in the mirror.

[8mmMauser]

Thanks for the background and for the coinage. Our world here is vastly more pleasant with the departure of the deathbots. I, too, prefer the term “deathbot”, as it is most descriptive, is self-explanatory.

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[8mmMauser]

Senator Brownback campaign...

It is hard to imagine a clearer positive invocation of the Terri Legacy than to associate with prominent Pro-Life activist, Bobby Schindler!

Schedule of events follows in link excerpted here.

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July 11, 2007 -- DES MOINES - The Brownback for President campaign announced today the Pro-Life, Whole-Life Tour, a series of campaign events featuring pro-life activists Bobby Schindler, the brother of the late Terri Schiavo, and Francis Bok, an escaped slave from the Sudan.

Francis Bok is an escaped Dinka slave from Sudan. At the age of seven he was abducted in a Sudanese government raid held in bondage in northern Sudan for nearly a decade. Bok was forced to sleep with cattle, endure daily beatings and eat rotten food. Since then he has dedicated his life to speaking on behalf of those who are still in bondage: "What good is my freedom if my brothers and sisters around the world are still not free?"

Bobby Schindler, brother to the late Terri Schiavo, gave up his teaching job at Tampa Catholic High School after his sister's husband received court permission to remove her feeding tube while she was in a coma caused by severe brain injury. Bobby now travels across the world telling his sister's story and describing the impact of euthanasia. Bobby is the author of "A Life That Matters" and the executive director of the Terri Schindler-Schiavo Foundation.

All events are free and open to the public and media.

Sam Brownback: Brownback Campaign Announces Pro-Life, Whole-Life Tour

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[8mmMauser]

Speaking of Bobby Schindler, he is Guest Columnist today on Dakota Voice.

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One can’t help but wonder if perhaps the mainstream media is feeling a growing sense of uneasiness regarding Terri’s death.

In the two years since my sister died I have witnessed an increasing determination on their part to convince the public that she was “hopeless” and in a persistent vegetative state (PVS) regardless of any and all evidence to the contrary.

I believe this is happening because of the increasing number of questions now being raised as to the veracity of the PVS diagnosis, which was the litmus test used to kill Terri – a litmus test which is still being used to justify the killing of others who are said to be in this condition.

Just last month researchers found that over 40% of the people diagnosed as being in a PVS are, in fact, misdiagnosed. This new study confirmed an already existing British study regarding the high rate of PVS misdiagnoses.

In addition to this, scientists are developing new technology that takes better images of brain function. Much to the surprise of researchers some of these images taken on persons that were thought to be oblivious to their surroundings show that they have some level of consciousness.

There have also been a growing number of persons diagnosed as being in “vegetative” conditions, predicted by doctors to never to regain consciousness, who have unexplainably awakened.

A number of these patients regained awareness after being in a “PVS” or similar conditions far longer than Terri was – Terry Wallis regained awareness after 19 years, Sarah Scantlin after 20 years, and Patricia White Bull after 16 years.

And then you have recent stories like that of 36 year-old Jesse Ramirez, whose feeding tube was removed by his wife only ten days after he suffered a severe head trauma in an automobile accident, when doctors said that he would most likely end up “vegetative.”

Fortunately his parents questioned the doctors, found an attorney and were able to get a judge to have his feeding tube reinserted. Days later Jesse began to make noticeable improvement and is now interacting with family and friends and scheduled for rehab.

Haleigh Poutre’s story is disturbingly similar. Doctors gave her a “no hope for recovery” diagnosis and recommended that Haleigh’s feeding be stopped so that she would die, only to be proven wrong when she started to improve.

One can only guess how often persons like Jesse, and Haleigh die without someone there actively advocating for their lives.

Moreover, what’s common to all these stories is the fact that the mainstream media reports them, not solely on their merits, but with the oft-repeated, almost frantic disclaimer that “of course this should not be confused with Terri Schiavo’s case.”

In an ABC News just a couple of weeks ago regarding Jesse Ramirez, they made certain to separate his situation from Terri’s. “But ethicists debate the extent to which this comparison is valid. This guy was not hopeless and in a persistent vegetative state by any means.”

Here is a USA Today story from June 2005. “The cases of Wallis and Schiavo are different biologically. Both slipped into comas when their brains were first injured, but then they diverged. Schiavo remained vegetative while Wallis moved into a state of limbo.”

And a Washington Post article from September 2006. “But Owen, Schiff and others stressed that the research does not indicate that many patients in vegetative states are necessarily aware or likely to recover. Schiavo, in particular, had suffered much more massive brain damage for far longer than the patient in Britain, making awareness or recovery impossible, they said.”

One has to wonder why the media goes to such extravagant lengths to distance Terri’s case from anything and everything that might connect her to a positive development or outcome.

Perhaps it is because they realize just how culpable they are in her death. Rather than report the facts of her case, the media championed the cause of the so-called “right to die” movement. They wrote Terri off as “hopeless” from the beginning and never bothered to examine the reality of her situation.

By trumpeting the decision of the judge who sentenced her to die, handling with kid gloves the “husband” who sought to kill her and giving a platform to euthanasia advocates, the media abdicated all responsibility to present the truth to the American public.

In situations like my sister’s, where a life was at stake, one would think that if even one doctor with proper credentials did not agree with the PVS diagnoses, common sense would dictate that the judge would err on the side of life.

What if, as in Terri’s case, there were 40 doctors who disagreed with the diagnosis?

Remember, the decision was left up to Judge George Greer who determined Terri was in a PVS despite hearing testimony from more physicians that physically examined Terri and believed that she was not in PVS than those who thought she was.

In addition to this there were more than 30 doctors that submitted affidavits to Greer corroborating with the doctors that said Terri either was not in PVS, or should have been given better testing in order to determine her actual condition, not to mention the videos of Terri that unmistakably contradict the PVS diagnosis.

And let’s not forget the autopsy which did NOT prove that Terri was PVS. The fact of matter is that the media – incredibly – continues to distort the autopsy with the public believing, all the while, that it confirmed Terri was in PVS.

Dr. Thogmartin, who performed Terri’s autopsy clearly stated, on at least three separate occasions, that he was unable to conclude whether Terri was in a PVS because it is a clinical diagnosis (person must be alive) and cannot be confirmed by autopsy.

Even more significant was the statement of Dr. Thogmartin’s colleague, neuropathologist Dr. Stephen Nelson, who said he could not rule out that Terri may even have been in a minimally conscious state (MCS) which is a higher level of consciousness than PVS.

However, even though all recent findings substantiate the already existing evidence that Terri was not in a PVS, Greer’s decision and that of the doctors with whom he sided will never be challenged. This is because no one can admit that a mistake was made and an innocent, conscious, disabled woman was wrongly dehydrated to death.

Sadly, the death movement has many years and millions of dollars invested in manipulating our culture and wooing the media into accepting this “quality-of-life” standard that uses the “PVS” diagnosis as a reason to terminate life.

Consequently, admitting Terri was conscious would be potentially devastating to their cause. They cannot and will not allow this to happen – thus the constant repetition that no matter how obvious the evidence may be to the contrary “we should not confuse” any of these findings “with the Terri Schiavo case.”

In fact, I expect it to get worse and for the media to become even more resolute in trying to justify Terri’s death, regardless that with each passing day it is becoming clearer that not only was Terri’s condition misdiagnosed, but that the PVS finding is a sham and should be completely abolished. 

Bobby Schindler is the brother of Terri Schiavo. He and his family now work for the Terri Schindler Schiavo Foundation in St. Petersburg, Fla., an organization dedicated to promoting the Culture of Life, embracing the true meaning of compassion by opposing the practice of euthanasia

Please Don't Confuse This Story With Terri Schiavo

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[8mmMauser]

Ping to the above.

[8mmMauser]

And speaking of deathbots...

Here is a classic in stark contrast, coming from the death side, and from lefties of the self-loathing Sicko kind.

A huge part of the problem we face is that our news organizations have become less and less upfront about telling us how things are and more and more about parroting the corporate line. The media selectively ignores the slow bleeding of our existing health care programs and spins the lies of the HMOs and insurance magnates and we (at least a solid percentage of us) believe the bullshit. As an example, we saw nearly 24-hour coverage of self-righteous assholes claiming to try and save the (non)life of Florida vegetable Terry Schiavo but heard virtually nothing about these same politicians attempting to shred funding to Medicare at the same time.

Who are we? What have we become?....Uhhhh deathbots?

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[8mmMauser]

Felos type story, on the euphoria of dehydrating slowly to death...

Thread by monomaniac. Thanks to TheSarce.

PEACHTREE CITY, Georgia, July 11, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A Marine candidate who nearly drowned four years ago in boot-camp met his death after his family agreed to let doctors remove his feeding tube.

"He smiled all week [since the tube was removed]. It was the first time. He seemed so happy, not in pain," his mother, Melia Isaac said of her son, who had been reduced to a comatose or minimal conscious state.

"I'm going to wonder for the rest of my life if I did the right thing. But I believe I did. He didn't have much of a life anymore. It was time to let go."

~Snip~

"Allowing them to die naturally is morally fine; causing their death is morally wrong," said Schadenberg. "By intentionally dehydrating them that's an intentional causation of death."

Marine Candidate Dehydrated to Death After Boot-camp Accident

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[8mmMauser]

Thread from wagglebee on killing the despondent...

GARRISON, NY, July 10, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - One of America's most prestigious bioethics journals has recently published an article questioning the policies currently in place across the world that prevent access to euthanasia for the clinically depressed.

In the May-June issue of the Hastings Center Report, Jacob Appel, a university professor from Providence, R.I., refers to the 1994 Death with Dignity Act in Oregon as well as California's Compassionate Choices Act that was approved this March. Noting the high tolerance for euthanasia in Europe, Appel cites the famous case in Switzerland last November when the Federal High Court of Lausanne ruled that euthanasia should be accessible for mentally depressed patients.

The case involved a 53-year old man who had previously tried to commit suicide twice. Backed by Dignitas, he argued a "right to self-determination" under Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights. The court ruled that "incurable, permanent, severe psychological disorders" were sufficient reason to allow a person to commit suicide. Similarly, in 1993 the Dutch Supreme Court refused to penalize psychiatrist Boudewijn Chabot for assisting a chronically depressed patient, fifty-year old Hilly Bosscher, to commit suicide.

Prestigious Bioethics Journal Advocates Assisted Suicide For Clinically Depressed

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[T'wit]

Speaking of deathbots, here is an interesting blog I came across, from "Caroline" to "Rach" (who had written a review of Silent Witness, Mark Fuhrman's book). It is dated 12/24/2005. It mentions some first-hand encounters with Dr. Deathbot himself, Ronald Cranford. It also offers very interesting theory of the crime and a healthy disgust at the criminal:

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Hi Rach,

Nice to chat with you! Yea, I made a mistake, I heard Dr Death make the correction on TV from 45 to 42 minutes. He was gloating. Cranford is crazy as a bat and should have been sent to prison years ago. He has killed many people over the years. He actually tried to kill a kid in a wheelchair that could eat with a spoon and operate the chair with his foot. The State of California ran him off. That surprised me, they are rather liberal, for them to run him off, is saying something. Cranford and I got into a email fest, and I told him off. He responded that I had just motivated him more to do his very important work. I am not kidding. He told another friend of mine that emailed him the same thing. He is on his last leg, by the way, he has LIVER CANCER. I have NO SYMPATHY for him and wonder if he will withhold his own water and food anytime soon. I asked him that and he didn't answer me directly just that he would continue to do his work. (kill people). I would really like to know how much Schiavo/Felos paid him to testify that Terri was PVS. Don't know if that is public record or not. My theory is since Terri had told her brother and best friend that Michael had been fighting with her all day that he lost his cool when she probably told him she was planning on leaving him. He was mad she spent her own money on her new hair doo and she probably got tired of his fits and told him she was leaving him. (she and Jackie Rhodes were looking for apts and at furniture). Michael was taking valuim for back pain, and that is a bad drug that can bring out rage and cause severe mood swings, and he probably, don't know...but..very well could have....had a beer after work that night, since he was in the bar restaurant business. He worked that night. I see him charging her from behind with a choke hold or putting his hand over her nose and mouth. That would not cause any broken blood vessels or injury and would be hard to detect. The thing is, the SOB left her laying face down, that is how the paramedics found her. Now, what kind of person would leave their spouse laying faced down until the EMS got there....