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To: tpaine

Atheists are not capable of being patriots because they are incapable of convictions or love. Since they have denied God, they see no reason to practice either since they don’t see how it will benefit their personal standing.

So no, atheists can not be Americanism.


3 posted on 07/01/2007 11:55:41 AM PDT by Alien Syndrome (Without our faith, we are helpless.)
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To: Alien Syndrome
Atheists are not capable of being patriots because they are incapable of convictions or love.

Overstated. Many atheists are admirable people quite capable of both.

I disagree with them, while hoping they will see the light, but I fail to see how such statements as yours help the dialogue in any way.

6 posted on 07/01/2007 12:26:33 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (It's not the heat, it's the stupidity.)
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To: Alien Syndrome
Atheists are not capable of being patriots because they are incapable of convictions or love.

Also, atheists do not have blood, but rather a black, malorodous oily substance. Where there hearts should be, there is a large hunk of marble. Their touch can spoil milk in three seconds. And if you pull back their hair, you can see their tiny horns.

Where the hell do you guys get this stuff? Every atheist has a mother, and the vast majority love theirs. Most love their country, too. Just because you cannot imagine any morality without the love of a benevolent God or the feqar of a vengeful one, don't assume that other folks don't have another basis for morality.

11 posted on 07/01/2007 12:50:17 PM PDT by ReignOfError (`)
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To: Alien Syndrome
Atheists are not capable of being patriots because they are incapable of convictions or love. Since they have denied God, they see no reason to practice either since they don’t see how it will benefit their personal standing.

Too stupid for words. Atheists are incapable of love>? Balderdash. Before God found me, I was very much an atheist. Despite what you and others might want to believe, I wasn't lost in a sea of debauchery, nor was I incapable of love.

As a Christian, I've certainly learned to forgive, but I always knew how to love. See, atheists like most of us learn to love via parents who loved them. Atheists aren't grown in an alien, loveless environment.

42 posted on 07/01/2007 2:23:07 PM PDT by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: Cultural Jihad; Alien Syndrome; y'all
"Americanism," Gelernter writes, is actually a religion in every way - better yet it is open to atheists;
" You can believe in Americanism without believing in God - so long as you believe in man."

Atheists are not capable of being patriots because they are incapable of convictions or love.

Um, sure, "convictions of love" are somehow necessary to agree that our Constitution must be honored and defended? - Could you explain that concept a bit more? It's rather alien to me. The last time I heard anything like that was from Cultural Jihad.

Since they have denied God, they see no reason to practice either since they don't see how it will benefit their personal standing.

"Practice" what? And what does "personal standing" have to do with constitutional patriotism?

So no, atheists can not be [for?] Americanism.

Your conclusion is simply not supported by your previous words. Can you try again?

46 posted on 07/01/2007 5:00:59 PM PDT by tpaine (" My most important function on the Supreme Court is to tell the majority to take a walk." -Scalia)
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To: Alien Syndrome

“Atheists are not capable of being patriots” - Incorrect. Although rabid jingoism might not be so easy for them.

“because they are incapable of convictions” - That must be why there are so few of them in prison :)

“or love” - Completely incorrect. For example, I love my sister and all my friends, and yet I don’t believe in the existence of God.

“So no, atheists can not be Americanism.” - Assuming by “Americanism” you meant Americans, this is also incorrect. Atheists can be, and indeed often are, born in the United States, which by definition makes them Americans.

Nice try, though.


49 posted on 07/22/2007 11:21:58 PM PDT by quasarsphere
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