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To: Sherman Logan

The reason I say this about atheists is because it is the truth. Just because there might be a couple good atheists doesn’t mean that they are the representation of the whole.

If you think you know how admirable atheists are, just read the “God delusion” or “God is not great”, it will show how they really are.

I’m sorry, but it is imposable for atheists to intentionally good, they need the fear of punishment to keep them in line. For you see, they deny God and therefore refuse to believe in heaven or in a closeness to God. Without this, an atheist will only see himself as “God” and live accordingly under this selfish delusion, regardless of the consequences towards others.


8 posted on 07/01/2007 12:43:24 PM PDT by Alien Syndrome (Without our faith, we are helpless.)
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To: Alien Syndrome

Anyone who is only good due to fear of punishment isn’t good where it counts: from the heart. To be good, you have to be good because it’s what you want, not because you fear punishment otherwise.


10 posted on 07/01/2007 12:47:45 PM PDT by sourcery (Anthropogenic Global Warming: A convenient lie designed to establish socialism by fear and deception)
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To: Alien Syndrome
Atheists are not capable of being patriots because they are incapable of convictions or love.

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I’m sorry, but it is imposable for atheists to intentionally good, they need the fear of punishment to keep them in line. For you see, they deny God and therefore refuse to believe in heaven or in a closeness to God. Without this, an atheist will only see himself as “God” and live accordingly under this selfish delusion, regardless of the consequences towards others.

Sorry to have to tell you this, but you are living in your own delusional little dream world.

12 posted on 07/01/2007 12:59:19 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Alien Syndrome
I’m sorry, but it is imposable for atheists to intentionally good

I'm not sure if the missing verb is "be" or "do," but in either case you're dead wrong.

There is a simple and universal basis for morality even if one believes in no deity. It's called empathy. The recognition that your fellow human being has feelings, hopes and dreams just like you do, and is worthy of respect just like you are. That can be a purely rational conclusion -- dude, don't kill or rob me, and I won't kill or rob you. Deal?

From that flows Kant's categorical imperative, which you probably know as the Golden Rule. And from that follows, as the night follows the day, a system of rules on how to treat one's fellow man. A moral code. God need not intervene.

You seem to believe that all atheists are sociopaths. I don't know who served you that Kool-Aid, but it's time to put it down.

13 posted on 07/01/2007 1:00:34 PM PDT by ReignOfError (`)
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To: Alien Syndrome
Atheists are not capable of being patriots because they are incapable of convictions or love.

The reason I say this about atheists is because it is the truth

Grammatically speaking, when you make an unqualified statement such as "atheists are" you are speaking of all members of that group or at least the vast majority.

While no doubt there are such people among atheists, the atheists I have known have as a group been about as moral as the Christians. (Not that this is saying a great deal!)

I'm sure you are aware that many of the greatest crimes of history have been committed by highly religious people, often for specifically religious reasons.

During the 20th century the religious crimes were dwarfed by the anti-religious crimes, but its the only century for which this is true.

26 posted on 07/01/2007 1:40:42 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (It's not the heat, it's the stupidity.)
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To: Alien Syndrome

It is possible for an atheist to be moral. He must not kill, cause pain, disable, deprive of freedom, deprive of pleasure, deceive, break promises, cheat, break the law, or steal. To be good he must try to prevent or lessen the above.


40 posted on 07/01/2007 2:09:10 PM PDT by mjp (Live & let live. I don't want to live in Mexico, Marxico, or Muslimico. Statism & high taxes suck.)
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To: Alien Syndrome

Where do you people get this stuff from?

Atheists don’t need the threat of eternal damnation to be good people in life. Anyone who does need that is simply not a moral person.

I won’t bother reading any books that promote atheist propaganda anymore than I will read books that promote religious propaganda.

I certainly don’t see myself as god or any type of god like figure. I’m a mortal, the same as everyone else on the planet.


48 posted on 07/04/2007 8:39:50 PM PDT by DeSainte
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