[Lorianne]

I don’t argue from a public health standpoint. I argue from a nuisance standpoint.

For example, there are noise, urination and defecation ordinances for public spaces (among others). Likewise, a smoking ordinance would make sense on the same basis.

On private property, property owners should set their own policies.

[sarasmom]

From a strictly nuisance standpoint:
I could argue that “overly sensitive people” should retire to self sustaining communes where they don’t bother normal people.

It seems you are actually admitting secondary tobacco smoke is not a real public health hazard.

I particularly dislike willfully stupid people.
Can we also ban them from public places?