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This Day In History - Civil War July 2, 1863 The second day of battle at Gettysburg
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Posted on 07/02/2007 4:21:52 AM PDT by mainepatsfan

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To: Lurking in Kansas

You got that right! Amazing that Lee did not listen to Longstreet. Did you know that Pickett blamed Lee for the loss of his division and never forgave him?


81 posted on 07/02/2007 6:35:31 AM PDT by Shaun_MD ("Republic of Texas")
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To: Shaun_MD

The loss of Jackson was the loss of Lee’s tactical equal. These two on the same battlefield were one continuing disaster for the North. Had he lived, moving him to the west would have prolonged the war to the point of saving the Confederacy.


82 posted on 07/02/2007 6:38:58 AM PDT by Pistolshot (We sleep safe, knowing good men and women are willing to do violence on our behalf.)
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To: Shaun_MD

“I’ve often wondered, what the hell was General Lee thinking. Longstreet knew the attack would fail and warned Lee against it.”

Had the artillery been effective, then it very well might’ve worked. It had worked in other battles, notably for Napoleon. However, the firepower of the era, combined with the fact that the firepower was intact after the artillery barrage, doomed the effort.

The alternatives were:

- Yet another day of attacking the high ground on the edges of the Union line, notably the Round Tops and the hills on the north end of the line.

- Leaving and going back to Virginia

- Make an end-run for DC, leaving the Union Army to attack from the rear while the considerable reserves left in DC attacked the front.


83 posted on 07/02/2007 6:52:37 AM PDT by TWohlford
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To: Shaun_MD

The best things that Ted Turner ever did. Maybe add Turner Classic Movies to that list as well.


84 posted on 07/02/2007 7:12:52 AM PDT by ReleaseTheHounds ("You ask, 'What is our aim?' I can answer in one word: VICTORY - victory - at all costs...")
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To: ReleaseTheHounds

It’s a shame that the third movie will probably never be made.


85 posted on 07/02/2007 7:27:10 AM PDT by Shaun_MD ("Republic of Texas")
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To: All

Since we are on the topic of Civil War movies, have any of you seen Andersonville?


86 posted on 07/02/2007 7:28:44 AM PDT by Shaun_MD ("Republic of Texas")
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To: Shaun_MD

Yeah I saw it. Not bad.


87 posted on 07/02/2007 7:31:23 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: EternalVigilance
When I was at K. U. I lived in a house in Lawrence that was next door to an old frame house that had preserved a bullet hole in the front porch fascia from Quantrill's raid.

At one point my great-great grandfather was accused of being one of the Pottowatomie Raider's.

It is especially interesting as his great-great-great grandfather was one of the largest slave owners in the western hemisphere, in the West Indies.

88 posted on 07/02/2007 7:39:23 AM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: mainepatsfan

Does anyone have a video clip from the 1938 Gettysburg veterans reunion where there is an actual recording of a Confederate vet doing a rebel yell; it was in the Ken Burns series.


89 posted on 07/02/2007 7:41:17 AM PDT by wolficatZ (Please don't feed the Croco-Stimpy!)
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To: mainepatsfan

I’ve been looking for the dvd, but no luck.


90 posted on 07/02/2007 7:43:29 AM PDT by Shaun_MD ("Republic of Texas")
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To: mc5cents
I would agree that the "Killer Angels" is outstanding.

If you want to introduce someone to Civil War battlefield history, that is one of the best first books to recommend.

Canton's stuff is to dry and, quite frankly, boring in its narrative manner.

91 posted on 07/02/2007 7:46:08 AM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: TWohlford
The alternatives were:

And he could have bled off troops overnight, marching westward toward Chambersburg in search of better ground, and using cavalry as a rear-guard defense in the morning while Meade decided what he was going to do. It would have taken Meade the better part of the day to make a move if not two days, by all accounts.

If he'd done that, Lee could have chosen his ground and strategically arrayed himself at the base of the Blue Ridge and made the Union forces approach the Confederates uphill against entrenched firepower. He could have mounted ambushes where the mountain roads passed through narrow defiles. He could have positioned his forces in places where artillery could command every approach.

Lee already had the better leadership in his officer corps, and knew it. His mistake was in thinking that such an advantage was enough to carry the day.

92 posted on 07/02/2007 7:50:33 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: mainepatsfan
No question about those Texans were some of the hardest fighting men in the Confederate Army.
93 posted on 07/02/2007 7:54:48 AM PDT by StoneWall Brigade
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To: vetvetdoug

That’s pretty cool.

Men were hard, then. It amazes me what they went through.


94 posted on 07/02/2007 7:56:46 AM PDT by ryan71 (You can hear it on the coconut telegraph...)
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To: mainepatsfan

My husband and I try to get to Gettysburg at least once every three years. He asked me to marry him on Little Round Top at dawn. Couldn’t ask for a better setting. We are planning on going next year again. My gg grandfather fought there and is named on the PA monument as are all of the Pa troops that fought there. Very special place for a lot of reasons.


95 posted on 07/02/2007 5:33:30 PM PDT by ussc1863
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To: wolficatZ

That is part of the series Echoes of the Blue and the Gray.
Contact the Horse Soldier in Gettysburg, they use to carry the DVD’s. We have them all here and have watched them often. I believe there were 3 VHS tapes and they combined it into 2 DVD’s. One is the 75th Gettysburg reunion when the Peace Monument was dedicated.


96 posted on 07/02/2007 5:38:22 PM PDT by ussc1863
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I’ve been really enjoying a Civil War computer game recently, and it has prodded me in to reading Foote again. I saw this thread and had to drop by. I’ll have to check the history thread in the future, it looks interesting.


97 posted on 07/02/2007 7:41:23 PM PDT by M1911A1
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