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Immigration Bill -- Shut Down
Real Clear Politics ^ | July 02, 2007 | Michael Barone

Posted on 07/02/2007 6:21:06 AM PDT by drellberg

"Here the Bush administration has a case to make. Border enforcement has dramatically improved. The catch and release program of OTMs (other than Mexicans) was ended last summer, a month ahead of schedule. Substantial miles of the border fence, voted by Congress last September, are being built. Technology provides us with means to seal the border in thinly populated areas in ways impossible in the 1980s and 1990s. Rhetoric aimed at showing a willingness to accept immigrants has concealed these achievements. Rhetoric emphasizing the increasing toughness and shrewdness at protecting the borders could create another impression."

For all of the Bush-bashers out there. Our President deserves much more credit and respect than he receives on Free Republic.com!

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; blowbackfordubya; borderpatrol; bordersecurity; bush; bushamnesty; cya; deathofthegop; enforcement; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; obl; shamnesty; vampirebill
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1 posted on 07/02/2007 6:21:07 AM PDT by drellberg
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To: drellberg
Substantial miles of the border fence, voted by Congress last September, are being built.

Uhhh....that's not true....

2 posted on 07/02/2007 6:22:25 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: drellberg
“For all of the Bush-bashers out there. Our President deserves much more credit and respect than he receives on Free Republic.com!”

One thing he doesn’t deserve is to be our president... He has lied to us and sold us down the river.

3 posted on 07/02/2007 6:25:37 AM PDT by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: drellberg

Hey, President Bush! “Where’s the Fence?”


4 posted on 07/02/2007 6:26:05 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Can you please point me in the direction of the substantial miles of the border fence that are being built? sarcasm

Looks like Rove has been busy with the writers he has in his hip pocket. Shame on Barone for not printing the truth about our Border Security and the fact that the bill that was defeated would have made the Border Security worse.

Guess he needs to listen to Hunter, Tancredo, and Rudy who all three have been going around the Country saying this bill would weaken border security not make it better.

What part of the picture that Americans are against amnesty does Barone not understand!


5 posted on 07/02/2007 6:26:33 AM PDT by PhiKapMom ( Inhofe for Senate 08 -- Broken Glass Republican -- vote out the RATs in 2008)
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To: drellberg
Border enforcement has dramatically improved.

LOL
6 posted on 07/02/2007 6:28:18 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: drellberg

Sorry, but on immigration, President Bush has been mostly horrible from the beginning up to the present. His rhetoric — whether its coining new platitudes to justify illegal immigration, implying that opponents hate Mexicans, or repeating canards about rounding up and deporting 12 million illegals — is thoroughly leftist. He enforcement of existing laws has been inexcusable, and his idea of reform is pretty much the same as Ted Kennedy’s.

Barone’s knowledge of politics and individual districts is almost unrivaled, but he too harbors fantasies about immigration in how this wave is like the past mass wave. He also refuses to say what he really means when he talks of ‘regularizing’ the immigrant flow to meet labor needs. This of course translates into calling for an enormous increase in already high levels of legal immigration, but for some reason he (and most others who share his view) won’t come out and say that.


7 posted on 07/02/2007 6:30:58 AM PDT by Aetius
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To: drellberg

I worked in the US Customs & Border patrol in their Washington DC HQ in the ronald reagan building downtown from 20021-2004. At the time it was common knowledge that the USA could shut the border in a heartbeat if there was the political will to do so. It was also common knowledge that the directives to keep the border open came straight from the white house.

bush is a lying treasonous sob. He should be smacked upside the head and kicked in the pants.

never mind the stupid NAU sh-t.


8 posted on 07/02/2007 6:31:43 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Uhhh....that's not true....

Uhhh...you're right! And some of what was built was found to be 'in' Mexico; not on the border. Sheesh!

9 posted on 07/02/2007 6:32:29 AM PDT by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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To: drellberg
Technology provides us with means to seal the border in thinly populated areas in ways impossible in the 1980s and 1990s.

I live in a border state, and in the 1960's and 1970's, technology was even worse.

And yet illegal immigration was not much of an issue, since domestic enforcement was actually carried out.

Blaming technology is always a pansy way out.
10 posted on 07/02/2007 6:32:31 AM PDT by horse_doc (Visualize a world where a tactical nuke went off at Max Yasgur's farm in 1969.)
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To: drellberg

Jorge Boosh receives the credit he has earned.


11 posted on 07/02/2007 6:32:32 AM PDT by Joe Bfstplk (What you said is exactly what you intended to say.)
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To: drellberg
The catch and release program of OTMs (other than Mexicans) was ended last summer, a month ahead of schedule.

What about Mexicans?

Substantial miles of the border fence, voted by Congress last September, are being built.

Thirteen miles is substantial?

For all of the Bush-bashers out there. Our President deserves much more credit and respect than he receives on Free Republic.com!/

Even if you have to lie and spin to claim such, apparently.

12 posted on 07/02/2007 6:33:28 AM PDT by dirtboy (Impeach Chertoff and Gonzales. We can't wait until 2009 for them to be gone.)
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To: drellberg

“Technology provides us with means to seal the border in thinly populated areas in ways impossible in the 1980s and 1990s”

***

We don’t need technology — we need a decent fence, more border security and a willingness to resist political correctness and deport the illegals who are already here. This is not brain surgery, folks.


13 posted on 07/02/2007 6:33:42 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: babygene
“For all of the Bush-bashers out there. Our President deserves much more credit and respect than he receives on Free Republic.com!”

Chertoff should be fired immediately for his "I can't enforce the law...I haven't the tools" remarks....

Bush has failed to lead and has lost the trust of the scores that once supported him and would march in the rain and lightening to show that support...

..............shame on him for turning his back on legal Americans....those that put him in office.

14 posted on 07/02/2007 6:33:43 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: cripplecreek

Another Dual Citizenship-Working-for-La Raza:
[cough] "Our #1 job priority is to give Amnesty to [cough] all terrorists,
so we only built thirteen miles of fence [cough]."


15 posted on 07/02/2007 6:34:34 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: drellberg
I live in Southern California. You won't want to hear this, but since President Bush has taken office, our state has become completely overrun with illegals. I cannot tell you how much worse it is now than it was in 2000, and believe me, it was bad then. But at that time we only had "pockets" of illegal communities, and we knew where they were. Now even once-beautiful neighborhoods are severely impacted.

So, according to you, should I not "credit" the President with our current climate?

16 posted on 07/02/2007 6:35:38 AM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid./LOUD and PROUD!)
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To: drellberg
For all of the Bush-bashers out there. Our President deserves much more credit and respect than he receives on Free Republic.com!

Maybe you don't have any self-respect but no one who back stabs me ever, ever retains my respect.

17 posted on 07/02/2007 6:35:47 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (The danger - the Tempest - forever is o'er.)
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To: drellberg

I resent Barone’s comments on this site. I am not a Bush Basher and never have been. I have been a supporter since 1994 but on the Immigration issue he is dead wrong same with the visit to the Mosque.

The threads were not filled with attacks on the President, they were filled with facts and frankly activism to get people to call their Senators and put pressure on them to kill this bill.

This was Americans putting Country before Party and Barone should be ashamed to have swallowed the koolaid of one Mr. Rove. It is obvious this morning with Novak and now Barone that Mr. Rove has been busy.

We are paying Rove’s salary for him to lose emails, put pressure on Senators to vote for illegal immigration and less border security, to withhold money from candidates that are opposed to the President on Immigration, and everything else political. No wonder he lost the emails from his WH computer — doesn’t want Republicans to see what he has been up to!


18 posted on 07/02/2007 6:35:48 AM PDT by PhiKapMom ( Inhofe for Senate 08 -- Broken Glass Republican -- vote out the RATs in 2008)
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To: drellberg
Substabtial miles of the border fence are being built? Well, the author of the bill that passed last year authorizing it and directing the government to build it, Duncan Hunter, has indicated several times that though the money is allocated for all 700-800 miles, only 12-15 miles, less than 20, have actually been built in the last year.

Is this waht you mean when you say "substantial miles"?

Sorry, that dog wont hunt.

The president is either ill advised over the entire illegal entry issue, or he is allowing what he deems to be "compassion" to over-ride what is in the best interest for this country. He madde a major error in getting behind this latest Senate Bill, a major miscalulation and a major error in judegement. he misjudged the sense of the people and their abject, fed-up attitude about the border and the absolute need for rigid and tough enforcement now.

19 posted on 07/02/2007 6:38:22 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: cbkaty

That is what Barone, Novak, and some of the rest are missing. Most of us on here that are so opposed to this bill and now the President for pushing it were his supporters who worked so hard to get him elected.

As far as I am concerned, this Administration abandoned supporters for illegals — don’t think there is anyway else to say it.


20 posted on 07/02/2007 6:38:39 AM PDT by PhiKapMom ( Inhofe for Senate 08 -- Broken Glass Republican -- vote out the RATs in 2008)
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