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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

He broke the law. He should go to jail.End the discussion and move on.

Yet another issue so called conservatives shoot themselves in the foot over.


5 posted on 07/02/2007 9:52:02 AM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: VaBthang4
He broke the law. He should go to jail.

What law did he break?

12 posted on 07/02/2007 9:58:00 AM PDT by Hoodat ( ETERNITY - Smoking, or Non-smoking?)
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To: VaBthang4

They were investigating a non-crime, and selectively prosecuted Libby. If he, as you say, ‘broke the law’; than so did many others in this case whose testimony has been just as inconsistent. This was a witch hunt, nothing more nothing less.


13 posted on 07/02/2007 9:58:57 AM PDT by Vanbasten
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To: VaBthang4
He broke the law. He should go to jail.End the discussion and move on.

Which law are you referring to? The law against having a faulty memory about a long-ago event in which no crime was committed? How would you like to be held to that standard?

14 posted on 07/02/2007 9:59:02 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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To: VaBthang4
He broke the law. He should go to jail.End the discussion and move on.

If mis-remembering details of who said what to whom and when they said it is perjury, then the jails won't have space to for all the former Clinton administration officials who need to join him. Including the Junior Senator from New York.

15 posted on 07/02/2007 9:59:03 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: VaBthang4
He was the victim of a political hack job and a political prosecution. Thet type of thing should not happen, and the President has the legal authority to pardon him.

If his conviction stands because he "couldn't remember" exactly what he said or did with respect to an issue that was not even a crime...simply the investigation of the non-crime was the issue...then Hillary Clinton and half the democratic party should also be in the slammer IMHO.

How many times under oath could she "not remember"?

Anyhow, all of that is beside the point. The president can constitutionally and legally pardon the man and his doing so would not be side-stepping the law in the least.

After what Clinton did, this is very tame in comparison so th eleft and the dims have nothing to say...if we had someone with the will to stand up to them. Pardoning a politically prosecuted individual over a non-crime is understandable...Clinton pardoned out and out terrorists.

17 posted on 07/02/2007 9:59:25 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: VaBthang4
He broke the law. He should go to jail.End the discussion and move on.

are you kidding? You must not have followed this case closely at all. With the passage of time, it will be shown without a doubt that this case was strictly one of an abuse of power.

18 posted on 07/02/2007 9:59:32 AM PDT by sand88
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To: VaBthang4
He broke the law. He should go to jail.End the discussion and move on.

Unfortunately we can't so easily dismiss the Sandy Burglar non-event.

19 posted on 07/02/2007 9:59:43 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: VaBthang4

He disagreed on a date and time with a journalist - who was never even brought to the stand to prove that his version of the date and time were correct or that Libby intentionally lied about it.

I know the media wants it to be a federal crime to disagree with a journalist, but to my knowledge, this is not the case yet.


21 posted on 07/02/2007 10:01:48 AM PDT by livius
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To: VaBthang4

He broke the law. He should go to jail.End the discussion and move on.

It is justice that matters- if it is only about the law then none and I mean none of us are safe from prosecution. Have you any idea how many laws are on the books? If we follow you around long and hard enough we will find something to charge you with. The Libby case is a paramount example of injustice.


24 posted on 07/02/2007 10:04:46 AM PDT by EdArt (free to be)
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To: VaBthang4

What planet do you live on - most people would be in prisons by your standards!


25 posted on 07/02/2007 10:06:03 AM PDT by Alissa
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To: VaBthang4
This might be an interesting read for you:

Does the Libby Verdict Have Appeal?
Making sense of legal nonsense.

By Victoria Toensing

The Scooter Libby verdict makes no logical sense, but that won’t bother the legal notions of an appellate court. In convicting on four counts but acquitting of one, the jury made the peculiar decision that Libby lied before the grand jury about his conversation with Time’s Matt Cooper, but not to the FBI when the agents questioned him about the same conversation. Libby gave the same general answer in both fora, specifically that he told Matt Cooper that he did not know if it were true that Joe Wilson’s wife worked for the CIA.

I don’t think I’ve ever read a case where the courts have overturned a conviction because the individual verdict counts were internally inconsistent. But there are issues that could be legally significant on appeal. To name a few:

The court punished Libby for not taking the stand: During trial the Libby legal team had said it was probable, but not certain, he would take the stand. Any criminal-defense attorney knows that decision is never made until the final moments of a trial. When the decision was made that Libby would not testify, the judge was, incredibly, furious and limited his defense evidence on the memory issue.

The court prevented the defense from impeaching Tim Russert: The NBC anchorman, who has a law degree, testified he did not know a lawyer could not accompany a witness before the grand jury. The defense then exhumed three clips where Russert had said on the air that a lawyer cannot go into the grand jury with his client. The judge would not allow the jury to hear that other honorable people sometimes forget or misspeak when being grilled on the witness stand.

The court permitted Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald to refer to Valerie Plame as being “covert” or having a “classified” job throughout trial and specifically during closing argument. Neither of those highly prejudicial characterizations was proven at trial. Even if Plame’s job were “classified,” as Fitzgerald reiterated in his press conference after conviction, there is no criminal violation in publishing her name. That legal gap is why Congress passed the Intelligence Identities Protection Act in 1982.

34 posted on 07/02/2007 10:13:49 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: VaBthang4
He broke the law. He should go to jail.End the discussion and move on.

Yeah, that's a real considered response. Give me a f**king break - Scooter Libby's liberty is *NOT* a small issue: it's symptomatic of an out-of-control 'Rat-sympathizing prosecutor who delivered a Bush Administration scalp to his 'Rat patron Chuckie Schumer.

But we couldn't possibly expect a knee-jerk 'Law Enforcement Can Do No Wrong/Screw the Constitution/Drug Warrior' type like you to understand that, now could we?

Oh, and by the way, don't complain the next time a cop hands you a speeding ticket that you don't believe you deserve. You broke the law, didn't you?

42 posted on 07/02/2007 10:45:00 AM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: VaBthang4

while I agree with you in that those who break the law should pay the price,however I do not believe Scooter broke one single law


44 posted on 07/02/2007 10:53:39 AM PDT by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: VaBthang4

He broke the law. He should go to jail.End the discussion and move on.

i jaywalked last night, i should get a ticket.


46 posted on 07/02/2007 11:08:13 AM PDT by JohnLongIsland
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To: VaBthang4

Ahh, Bulls#!+! And you know it.


55 posted on 07/02/2007 12:31:15 PM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: VaBthang4

When is the Mr. Hillary Clinton prosecution going to begin?

We were all promised we could try him after he left office; well, I’m still waiting........


57 posted on 07/02/2007 12:45:52 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (Dems will impeach Bush in 2008; mark my words.)
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To: VaBthang4

Poppycock. He was the only one they could nail for anything.


59 posted on 07/02/2007 12:47:10 PM PDT by tioga (I'll take Duncan Hunter or Fred Thompson for President. Pick one.)
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To: VaBthang4

He didn’t break the law and he shouldn’t go to jail.

What’s your problem? Do you not want friends to support you when you get railroaded by a corrupt prosecutor and an idiot judge?


67 posted on 07/02/2007 2:56:11 PM PDT by 1L
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To: VaBthang4

He didn’t break any law. There was no case to investigate. It was all fabricated. You can’t obstruct an investigation into something when the guilty person had already confessed before the investigation even began.

If anything, Fitzgerald should be prosecuted for prosecutorial mishandling of a case.


71 posted on 07/02/2007 3:06:28 PM PDT by Eva (I)
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