“Even if you don’t have a problem, I have serious doubts about a Pat Robertson-affiliated organization’s motivations.”
Gotta hand it to you, Smithee. You’ve near perfected the art form of saving face.
Just eviscerated and laid bare your feeble “religious bigotry” allegation, which you breezily acknowledge with a hurried concession, quickly followed by a seamless segue into then questioning Pat Robertson’s motivations. (Oh, that didn’t work, but not having learned my lesson, I’ll try it again.)
So having tried it again, let me eviscerate you again.
NEWSWEEK: “Romney’s edge — (Pat) Robertson has to have his own candidate, and there is no way it would be McCain. The good doctor seems to have taken a liking to Romney, whose father was a governor and who had the good sense to get graduate degrees from Harvard. Robertson’s Christian Broadcasting Network ran a glowing profile of Romney, a piece that studiously ignored some of the Mormon doctrinal teachings that would seem calculated to make even Robertson’s helmet of TV hair stand on end.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17150516/site/newsweek/page/2/
Two months ago, at Robertson’s invitation, Romney gave the commencement address at Regent University; in fact, that’s where Mitt said porn videos were partly responsible for the VA Tech shootings.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/05/AR2007050501081.html
Jay Sekulow, president of the American Center for Law & Justice, the Christian legal foundation founded by Robertson, is openly endorsing Romney and serving as a campaign advisor.
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters?pid=174210
Plus Sekulow’s 20-something son Jordan is a paid Romney campaign staffer.
“Thus endeth the lesson.” (Sean Connery, The Untouchables)
That is, the latest in a series of lessons.
In both cases (your questioning first mine and then Pat’s motives), you’ve exposed yourself as not only clueless but as grasping at any straw by which to appear to maintain an argument.
After this series of embarrassments and exposures, please show some dignity and just throw in the towel.
Thank you for your post about Pat Robertson and Jay Sekulow. Yahoo! I am so happy. I didn’t know about this. I love Jay Sekulow. He has argued before the U.S. Supreme Court and really knows how to do battle.
Jay Sekulow is one of the heroes of the “religious right” and a hero on FreeRepublic. I have followed him since probably 1985 (?) when I used to watch TBN. He has fought the good fight on abortion, Christians rights, etc. I have given money to his organization ACLJ.
I am so happy that he is involved in Romney’s campaign. You made my day!
"School's back in session." (L.N. Smithee)
In both cases (your questioning first mine and then Pat’s motives), you’ve exposed yourself as not only clueless but as grasping at any straw by which to appear to maintain an argument...let me eviscerate you again.
Blah, blah, blah, blah...stop stroking your ego in public. It's disgusting.
I wrote that "I have serious doubts about a Pat Robertson-affiliated organization's motivations." To counter that, you linked and cited a Newsweek article from February 14, 2007 which said the following:
Then you linked an article from the Washington Post from May 6, 2007, about Romney being invited to give the commencement address at Regent University. But you didn't mention the citation in that article of a page on CBN.com (the source of the David Brody report on which this thread is based) about how Mormonism is a cult:
Robertson’s Christian Broadcasting Network ran a glowing profile of Romney, a piece that studiously ignored some of the Mormon doctrinal teachings that would seem calculated to make even Robertson’s helmet of TV hair stand on end.”
On the Web site of the Christian Broadcasting Network, another Robertson entity, a page called "How Do I Recognize a Cult?" says that "when it comes to spiritual matters, the Mormons are far from the truth."
Indeed, that's what CBN.com says of Mormonism. From the link:
Sure, in the picture accompanying the Post piece, Pat and Mitt are smiling buddies. For now. Robertson has a history of insisting God's wrath will be wrought against anyone who disagrees with his political views. Remember when he suggested a meteor might hit Orlando, FL because of increase in Gay Pride functions there? Remember how he issued a message to Dover, PA that they shouldn't seek God's help after any natural disaster since they rejected him by banning Intelligent Design textbooks? Remember how he said that his "friend" Ariel Sharon was struck with a stroke because of his removal of Israeli settlements from West Bank to accommodate Palestinians (click for MSNBC story and video)?
"[A] cult will put something else on an equal footing with Christ...[e]ven if [a group] acknowledges Christ as Savior, it will say that you need something else before you can get into heaven. Cults teach that salvation comes through Christ, plus their little unique way...(snip)
Mormons are some of the most exemplary human beings, especially in regard to their behavior patterns and their adherence to the fundamental values of our society. But their religious beliefs are, to put is (sic) simply, wrong...Mormonism differs from biblical Christianity in several areas. Mormons do not believe, for example, that salvation comes through faith in Jesus Christ. Mormons must work their way to heaven...Mormonism teaches that God is not the only deity and that we all have the potential of becoming gods. [](Remember that Satan's fall came about because he wanted to be like God.)
[Sharon] “was dividing God’s land and I would say woe unto any prime minister of Israel who takes a similar course to appease the EU (European Union), the United Nations, or the United States of America,” Robertson said.
What reason is there to believe that Robertson wouldn't turn on Romney as soon as he runs afoul of Pat's divine vision of how the world should be run? Maybe Mitt already has, and this Brody piece is a manifestation of it. At the least, a fair assessment of the facts would concede there are mixed signals, unless you believe Pat has already tacitly endorsed a "cult member" with over a year to go in the campaign.
I said Pat Robertson is a loose cannon and a failed candidate for President with delusions of grandeur. I think that shoe fits a guy who said he can steer hurricanes away from his hometown with his prayers and believes when someone falls ill half a world away, he can read the mind of the Almighty as to why He made it happen. He's like a conservative Christopher Hitchens. Sometimes, they are each spot-on about some things, but when they're wrong, it's usually a doozy.
As for Jay Sekulow: I have read and heard Sekulow on many occasions. I have yet to hear or see him venture from the field of defending the civil rights of Christians from secularists in government. In my experience, Jay has used his feet for walking and his mouth for talking, and unlike Robertson, doesn't put the former in the latter.
In any event, here's the bottom line: If people like you succeed in nudging Romney into promising that obscenity laws will be enforced by his Justice Department the way they have been in Cincinnati, he will marginalize himself and possibly make himself unelectable.