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IMMIGRATION: Great Wall of India
Waterbury Republican-American ^ | July 2, 2007 | Editorial

Posted on 07/02/2007 7:14:56 PM PDT by Graybeard58

Like the United States, India has an immigration problem. India is a developing country with a booming economy. Its neighbor, Bangladesh, is an impoverished mess with 150 million people crammed onto what is mainly a flood plain about the size of upper New England plus Massachusetts. India surrounds Bangladesh on three sides; on the fourth is the Indian Ocean, which frequently stirs up catastrophic typhoons.

India's per-capita income is about $730 a year, not much by American standards but twice that of Bangladesh, where nearly 60 million of its residents earn less than $1 a day. The result was a growing wave of people crossing from Bangladesh into India, including job-seekers and Islamic terrorists.

In the words of Ajai Sahni, head of the New Delhi-based Institute for Conflict Management, "India has enough nightmares of its own without adding to them."

Something urgently needed to be done, and India went ahead and did it.

Without fuss, without bother, without much debate, India began building a fence all the way around its 2,050-mile border with Bangladesh. The fence consists of two rows of 10-foot-high barbed wire stretched between posts studded with spikes. Coils of barbed wire fill the space between the two rows. Work began in 2000, and about 1,550 miles of the fence has been completed.

Contrast that with the outcry and anguish in the United States over a plan to build a 700-mile fence across part of its border with Mexico. Contrast that with the inability of Congress to do anything about illegal immigration.

Last week's failure of the immigration bill in the U.S. Senate means nothing is likely to be done until at least 2009. By then, work on India's fence should just about be done.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; goodfence; india; moat; wall; yankeepeabrains
27% of state and federal prisons population are illegal immigrants. They aren't there for the crime of illegal entry but for crimes committed after committing that crime. Cost of housing them is 1.4 Billion per year. Dick Morris said it and cited a source on Hannity and dunderhead.

He also said that the net loss caused by illegals to our economy was 1.3 trillion per year and cited a source.

A damn fine wall across our entire southern border could be built for that kind of money, with enough left over to finance vastly increased border control.

1 posted on 07/02/2007 7:14:57 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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2 posted on 07/02/2007 7:16:12 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Graybeard58

That is an amazing story. So. India can build a fence and the United States cannot?


3 posted on 07/02/2007 7:38:04 PM PDT by ChessExpert (Mohamed was not a moderate Muslim)
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To: Graybeard58
bangledesh fence


4 posted on 07/02/2007 7:42:08 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: ChessExpert
Last week's failure of the immigration bill in the U.S. Senate means nothing is likely to be done until at least 2009.

Nonsense. By 2009, there will be at least 30 more miles of fence built.

5 posted on 07/02/2007 7:42:11 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: Graybeard58





6 posted on 07/02/2007 7:54:16 PM PDT by RushingWater (Pres. Bush honors Mexican sovereignty over our own - Pardon Ramos/Campeon/Hernandez)
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To: Graybeard58
"He also said that the net loss caused by illegals to our economy was 1.3 trillion per year and cited a source."

That is higher than previous figures I have read. Anyone have a source?

7 posted on 07/02/2007 8:03:44 PM PDT by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: CarrotAndStick

“India has enough nightmares of its own without adding to them.”

That is for sure. The fiancee unit is there now, working in a rural hospital in Puliangudi, Tamil Nadu, if you can call it a hospital. They reuse gloves, have no sterile equipment, no bleach. The Operating Room table is metal, they wear flip flops in the OR and hose the table off with a garden hose and tap water between surgeries. The power goes out 3x a day on average. There is a Typhoid epidemic in the area right now and in neighboring Kerala. No surprise since people poop in the street and the entire place is covered in flies.

The doctors who run the hospital she is working in are well off by local standards - but the most they can afford for most meals is a couple dosai and a little sambar and coconut chutney. The fiancee unit has lost about 10 pounds in the last week and a half. She’ll be there another 7 weeks.

However despite that, the unlocked GSM phone I bought her works fine with a local Indian Airtel SIM card, I can call and text message with her there. Insane.

Yes India has problems of it’s own!

C&S I’ll let you know when she is able to upload some photos. I think she mentioned she took a couple surreptitiously inside a Kali temple, and also of Madurai where she went for a couple days, and some gritty village pictures. Problem is they only have dialup where she is, and the power goes out every time she tries to upload them at 28.8k over crappy dialup.


8 posted on 07/02/2007 8:26:05 PM PDT by GovernmentIsTheProblem (The GOP is "Whig"ing out.)
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To: Graybeard58

I would bet we could get our wall built if the Politicians could “out source” the construction!


9 posted on 07/02/2007 8:45:11 PM PDT by Mumbles
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To: Graybeard58

“27% of state and federal prisons population are illegal immigrants. They aren’t there for the crime of illegal entry but for crimes committed after committing that crime. Cost of housing them is 1.4 Billion per year. Dick Morris said it and cited a source on Hannity and dunderhead.
He also said that the net loss caused by illegals to our economy was 1.3 trillion per year and cited a source.

A damn fine wall across our entire southern border could be built for that kind of money, with enough left over to finance vastly increased border control.”


My solution is to apprehend a bunch of these illegals. Ship them to the Southern U.S. border and pay them to build a wall to our specs, including gates since we do want to allow LEGAL immigration. When they finish, pay them and direct them thru the gates back into Mexico.

They make money as is their goal.

We get our fence as is our goal.

Win win proposition.


10 posted on 07/02/2007 9:37:52 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: Graybeard58

STOP AMNESTY NOW!! WE CAN DO IT!!

11 posted on 07/02/2007 10:39:18 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem

Thanks GITP!

Hmm, about the cellphones working, well, it’s cheaper to put up a tower, serving several thousands, than to lay underground telephone cables and switches, and maintain them, hence the former is more popular than the latter.

Besides, cellphone networks are totally privatised, so the efficiency is far better. Private players, barring a dozen or so, rarely enter the laid-cable P.O.T.S networks.


12 posted on 07/02/2007 10:51:15 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

India also built a fence along the Pakistan border to keep out Mooslim terrorists. They had Israeli consultants. It works.
Tell your Congresscriter to build the fence.


13 posted on 07/03/2007 5:45:29 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Oldexpat
Yes.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2005/20050112/j&k.htm#1

Infiltration down due to fencing

Tribune News Service

Srinagar, Kashmir (INDIA)

January 11, 2005

With about 14 months of ceasefire along the border in Jammu and Kashmir facilitating uninterrupted exercise of border fencing, the infiltration of militants has been curtailed to a great extent during the past six months. Nearly 45 infiltration attempts have been made along the LoC since July last year. The task of fencing the porous LoC along the rugged mountains to check the infiltration of militants was completed in a year by September last.

“The fence has added a new dimension in the battle against infiltration and exfiltration of militants, according to Army officials here. With the Army keeping an ever-constant vigil along the fence, crossing the border has become very tough for the militants. Sources here claimed that the security forces have seen groups of militants move up to the fence and then turn back realising that any attempt at crossing will be suicidal.

The fencing that prevented infiltration is also regarded as the main reason behind a decline in the violence in the state during the past year. However, “ the infiltration is there. It has not stopped”, said a senior police officer here, adding that the infiltration attempts by the militants from across the border were calibrated. With the decline in the violence the past year has witnessed over 2500 incidents and over 700 civilian killings, which has been rated as the lowest level of violence since the eruption of militancy 15 years ago.

Not only the border fencing, various other measures like laying of landmines and possession of modern equipment and weaponry, have helped the Army to check the infiltration and exfiltration along the border. The sources said except for some populated areas, the entire border is laden with landmines. It has, however, been hazardous to many civilians living in the border areas injuring them or rendering them maimed over the years.

The Army is also equipped with world-class night vision devices, detection equipment, surveillance, alarm and communication system. The security forces have sought installation of more sensors made in Israel to effectively check any movement along the border.

The fencing was first attempted in 1994 on the pattern of Punjab and Rajasthan but was suspended due to cross border firing. Later it was restarted along the 198 km-long International Border in the Jammu region in 2001. The fencing along 778 km of the LoC in Kashmir was taken up in 2003 and completed after one year in September last year, according to the sources here.

In order to ensure deterring and detecting the infiltrators or exfiltrators, two systems have been conceived. These are the anti-infiltration obstacle system, which is an integration of an electrified fence incorporated with an “anti-intrusion alarm system”. Moreover, there is “hi-tech surveillance and communication clubbed with the deployment of troops so as to cover the fence with little or no gaps”, said the sources.


14 posted on 07/03/2007 5:57:46 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

India can do it.....but the USA can’t.

What’s the difference?

Political will, by our elites.


15 posted on 07/03/2007 7:38:18 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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