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MoveOn Puts Impeachment Back on the Table-(Send In Those Welfare Checks, Moonbats!)
Yahoo News ^ | 7-3-07 | The nation

Posted on 07/03/2007 11:11:13 PM PDT by tcrlaf

In the wake of President Bush's commutation of prison time for convicted felon Lewis Libby and a developing constitutional clash over important subpoenas, influential Democratic activists are pressing Congress to put impeachment back on the table.

Today MoveOn.org, the powerhouse group of 3.2 million political activists, launched an unprecedented petition calling on Congress to impeach Vice President Cheney if he defies congressional subpoenas issued to investigate the Bush administration's purge of prosecutors at the Justice Department.

Leading bloggers have also launched a targeted campaign to specifically lobby Democratic members of the House Judiciary Committee to put impeachment back on the table, and as The Nation's John Nichols reports, some members of Congress say it is now time to "reconsider impeachment proceedings."

The Judiciary Committee is led by John Conyers, who introduced a bill last Congress to explore impeachment proceedings. It drew support from about one out of seven House Democrats at the time.

But Speaker Nancy Pelosi said impeachment was off the table during the mid-term campaign, and Conyers later sent an email to his national supporter list echoing the Speaker's promise.

Leaving aside the detailed debate over when, how and why impeachment proceedings would ever begin, Congress should never have taken the prospect of impeachment off the table.

It is a constitutionally protected check against runaway executive power and lawlessness -- problems that Americans are quite familiar with lately.

(Politicians are fond of reiterating their willingness to keep the option of nuclear bombs "on the table" in foreign policy, so surely constitutional oversight and accountability can remain on the table too.) When Congress tries to govern without its full power, the President can act with impunity.

Here's how the New York Times explained Bush's commutation today: Mr. Bush comes at the decision as a weakened leader, with his public approval ratings at historic lows for any president, his domestic agenda faltering on Capitol Hill and his aides facing subpoenas from the Democrats who control Congress.

Those circumstances offer him a certain amount of freedom; as Mr. Black said, "He knows he's going to get hammered no matter what he does."

See? Without further consequences on the table, Bush's historically low support, refusal to work with democratically elected officials in the coequal branch and mounting investigations into serious wrongdoing only serve to give him more "freedom."

And with that freedom, Bush and Cheney are fighting to preserve the freedom of a convicted felon, defy congressional investigations and continue to undermine the law and the Constitution through spying, torture and detention policies. How can they be stopped?

At times like these, Americans might want to consider what the Founders would do?


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antiwarfreaks; impeachment; moveon; nonsense; presidentbush
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To: gcruse
The Constitution specifies that the president of the Senate preside over impeachment trials, with POTUS the ONLY exception.

I know, but come on. You don't think he doctrine of due process will prevent a person from sitting as a judge over his own trial? Besides, I think the SC has original jurisdiction over this, so a dismissal can easily be appealed.

21 posted on 07/04/2007 1:25:44 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: nwrep

All I know is that them’s the rules. Apparently the Democrats aren’t thinking that far ahead.


22 posted on 07/04/2007 1:30:32 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: nwrep

Did you just say a Senate conviction of an impeaced govt official can be appealed to the USSC?


23 posted on 07/04/2007 1:31:49 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: gcruse
Did you just say a Senate conviction of an impeaced govt official can be appealed to the USSC?

No, I did not say a conviction can be appealed to anyone. I am talking of your hypothetical scenario where a rogue Dick Cheney dismisses his own trial in the Senate. I think (about 90% sure) that rogue act can be appealed.

24 posted on 07/04/2007 1:35:07 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: nwrep

If other impeachment trials are unappealable, why should this one be?


25 posted on 07/04/2007 1:37:10 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: gcruse

Make that, ‘why should this one be appealable?’


26 posted on 07/04/2007 1:38:18 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: gcruse

It is only appealable in the case your hypothetical scenario of Dick Cheney dismissing his own case materializes. Otherwise, if the trial proceeds as intended, and reaches a conclusion (regardless of the verdict), it cannot be appealed.


27 posted on 07/04/2007 1:41:14 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: nwrep

I don’t know. You could be right, of course, but with no appellate machinery in place, I can’t see it being created ex nihilo. But like I said, it’s the Dem’s problem, innit?


28 posted on 07/04/2007 1:47:51 PM PDT by gcruse
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