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To: LilyBean
“They spend way to much time and energy on hatred. And little on improving their own lot in life. They care more about blaming everything on Israel, and expending little, if no effort on improving themselves, and their surroundings. They are do nothings. They do nothing, and expect everything. I would not even care to see what Israel would look like under the care of these do nothings.”

Change the word Israel to “the White man” and you might go a long way toward explaining why everyone locks their car doors as soon as they pull onto a street named after Martin Luther King.

I am quite aware, though, that not all Muslims are quite as unproductive as this fellow and his kindred spirits. The same is true of residents of the inner city and other places where all the residents seem motivationally challenged. I recall when I was growing up I thought the area where my father grew up was a dump and everyone seemed to be on welfare or other government relief. The greatest ambition of a young woman seemed to be to find someone on black lung disability to marry - since survivor benefits last forever. My father, aunts and uncles seemed to be, for the most part, hard working people who were successful and very scornful of any kind of government welfare. I was in college before I finally understood what happened. Those with motivation left and made their livings elsewhere. The ones left behind did not have motivation enough to leave. The nation is filled with successful former-east Kentuckians, but very few succeeded by staying home and waiting for a government check.

My aunts and uncles left their former home and went to places where a work ethic made a difference. Their scorn for welfare was based mostly on what they saw the welfare state do to their friends and neighbors who stayed behind and lived in misery while collecting monthly checks. As those with initiative left, those who look to the federal government for a solution to each and every problem took over by default. The area became a dump because no one would raise a finger to solve any problems, they would only sit around and carp about how unresponsive the federal government was to their plight. Appalachia is changing somewhat in more recent years, but many parts fell victim to this government co-opting of initiative.

You can see the difference in the Muslim world of today. Turkey, Malaysia, The UAR and a few others are dominated by pragmatic types who have somewhat of a work ethic and are more concerned with economic development than with skinning Salman Rushdie or burning down Denmark because of some cartoons. Those nations occasionally spout some Islamic rhetoric, but for the most part spend their time advancing their economies and, in consequence, their people are seeing their standards of living improve. At the other extreme are Iran and the Gaza Strip where the economies are a shambles because the leadership is more interested in religious extremism than in feeding their own people. Other nations like Afghanistan and Pakistan have suffered from being the battleground between extremists and pragmatists.

The difference is who is in charge. When you let those who care more about their social or religious causes than about the economy, you get a dump. When government sees their role as securing the economy and the ability of those who wish to to work and earn a living, the people generally do fairly well.

At least that is my opinion.

99 posted on 07/05/2007 2:10:10 PM PDT by Law is not justice but process
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To: Law is not justice but process
Fine and thoughtful post. I've seen the same contrast on the eastern side of the Continental Divide.

Congressman Billybob

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118 posted on 07/05/2007 4:42:47 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Please promote Dr. Sowell's words, at Duke.)
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