[Travis McGee]

I don't find it productive to debate the intentionally (or unintentionally) obtuse. Not on the definition of the word "is," nor "the people;" no more than how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

It's not even a form of mental masturbation: it's a complete waste of time. One might as well debate the village idiot mumbling in front of the local 7-11 about the meaning of the messages coming from the fillings he believes the CIA planted in his teeth.

But hey, thanks for bumping the thread.

[robertpaulsen]

"I don't find it productive to debate ..."

The definition of "the people" is the crux of the debate.

Now, if you're going to insist "the people" is everyone, fine. Of course you can't support that, so I can understand why you want to take back your ball and go home.

But if you expect me to take you seriously, you'll have to do much better than that.