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1 posted on 07/06/2007 11:46:52 PM PDT by bruinbirdman
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I can’t remember the make-up of my high school when I was there. Though it was diverse. It was fairly evenly spread out between everybody.


2 posted on 07/06/2007 11:52:06 PM PDT by wastedyears (Freedom is the right of all sentient beings - Peter Cullen as Optimus Prime)
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This should have been posted a few hours later when more people could respond. Education is a hot topic, and Democrat ignorance on the subject really makes me sizzle.


3 posted on 07/07/2007 12:45:35 AM PDT by Liberty Wins (Not only does Fred Thompson cut taxes, he cuts tax collectors.)
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the problem is the teachers are NOT qualified. they are taught liberal values and not taught how to teach. they think the kids will learn reading by osmosis and keep telling parents to READ to the kids and the kids will get it.

I have been around the school district since 1990 with my kids and the amount of students that cannot read in grammar school levels is phenomenal.


5 posted on 07/07/2007 1:55:18 AM PDT by television is just wrong (Amnesty is when you allow them to return to their country of origin without prosecution.take the get)
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Who benefits? If young adults are stupid, not knowledgeable, need welfare, employee police, welfare agents, prison guards, medical services this is all good and helps the Democrat voter base the government/tax paid social service employees. They need losers. It is the Democrat teachers obligation to see that the factories produce the product that best fits the welfare system. Losers.
7 posted on 07/07/2007 4:12:32 AM PDT by Leisler (Just be glad your not getting all the Government you pay for.)
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Not a one of them even whispered a mild word of outrage about a public school system that spends $13,000 per child -- third highest among big-city school systems -- and produces pupils who score among the lowest in just about every category.

Let's see ---- ($13,000 per child) x (23 children per classroom) = $299,000 per class. If the teacher is paid $70,000/yr, that leaves $229,000 to be spent for administration, books, utilities, janitorial. Where does the rest of that money go????

In the middle and high schools in our our local public school districts there are more teachers not in the classroom during the day than there are teachers in class. Teachers average 3 class periods per day, and yet they still clamor for more teachers and the teachers whine about being overworked and underpaid.

8 posted on 07/07/2007 4:55:49 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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Fixing bad schools in a bad neighborhood with high levels of poverty, broken or non-existent family life, high crime levels, etc. does not solve the problem, it treats the symptom. To be successful in that environment, a teacher can't be a dedicated professional who goes home to a clean, safe environment each night, the teacher has to be a dedicated missionary who is part of a larger effort.

The goals of increasing spending on one problem in the community might be noble, but should be realistic in terms of success and impact without other actions to improve the whole community, not just the part inside the school building for part of the day.

9 posted on 07/07/2007 5:01:18 AM PDT by Bernard (The Fairness Doctrine should be applied to people who follow the rules to come to America legally)
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That is not necessarily true.They know exactly what is wrong with public education. That is the reason they send their children to private schools and colleges.


10 posted on 07/07/2007 5:05:37 AM PDT by sport
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Peter Drucker, in his book “The New Realities”, has pointed out the two greatest faults of the education system: The removal of values and not preparing students for the world they will step into.


11 posted on 07/07/2007 5:06:39 AM PDT by RoadTest (The arrogance of academia is even greater than its ignorance.)
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The big problems with public schools in particular are:

nonacademic curriculum starting in 1st grade
low expectations
illiterate teachers
too much overhead/administration
psychological “health” emphasis instead of academic merit
no discipline

Other than those things, the schools are just fine. /s


12 posted on 07/07/2007 5:39:51 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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Of course most Democrats can’t personally relate to the poor condition of some of our public schools because they went to private schools and likewise are sending their own children to them.


15 posted on 07/07/2007 5:59:21 AM PDT by MissEdie (Liberalscostlives)
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The suspension of reality is what the Democrats are all about, but this really puts a point on it.


17 posted on 07/07/2007 6:08:10 AM PDT by Yardstick
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GOVERNMENT SCHOOLS THEN AND NOW:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0lR1KQq2-U


18 posted on 07/07/2007 6:16:15 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (Wor)
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19 posted on 07/07/2007 6:17:09 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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