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The Real Skinny on Socialized Medicine
Town Hall via FreedomWorks ^ | June 26, 2007 | Matt Kibbe

Posted on 07/07/2007 1:01:56 PM PDT by wagglebee

“I'm the thinnest f@#king guy in town!"

--Michael Moore (Rolling Stone 9/17/04)

In his new film Sicko, Michael Moore makes it clear that he is a big fan of government-run health care. He may in fact be one of the biggest fans of socialized medicine in America, given his well-documented penchant for donuts and double Quarter-Pounders with cheese.

Moore proposes that the federal government nationalize the provision of health insurance so that everyone is covered. “The government has been quite good and efficient at creating a number of systems,” he tells Time. “Ask anyone on Social Security if their check comes on time every month. Like clockwork. And it comes through the so-called dilapidated U.S. mail.” In his movie, Moore celebrates the socialized health care systems in Cuba, Canada and France as better role models for America. In Canada, says Moore, the main flaw in their program “is that it’s underfunded.”

Of course, the reality is that Canada’s health care professionals are fleeing to America to work, and Canadian patients regularly come here for life-saving care. In fact, the Canadian system Michael Moore is so fond of is one of only three governments that make it illegal to buy private health insurance. The others are Cuba and Kim Jong Il’s North Korea. And here at home, the bankrupt Social Security system and massively inefficient U.S. postal service are not models for anything but government failure.

In a socialized system, every taxpayer pays in to the government pot. But not everyone gets the health care they need, because the demand for free health care will be virtually infinite. But the dollars available to be spent will be limited. Hillary Clinton, when she last tried to impose government-run health care on the American people, euphemistically referred to this as a “global budget” for health care expenditures.

Michael Moore calls it “underfunded.” Call it what you like, but what this really means is that some people get the health care they need and others wait in a line for service. It’s called rationing, and it is really Sicko. As the great Irish philosopher P.J. O’Rourke once observed: “If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free."

Michael Moore is too blinded by ideology (or perhaps by a deep fried Twinkie-induced blood sugar rush) to see the real problems with the U.S. health care system: the government is already too involved in the health decisions made by patients and their doctors. This has driven up prices and denied individuals the right to make health care choices for themselves and their families. To truly fix health care, we need to increase choice and competition, as well as reduce the insurance mandates and junk lawsuits that drive up costs.

But why do I keep taking shots at the breath-taking girth of “the famously outsized filmmaker,” as the L.A. Times recently referred to Moore? In America, what he eats is his choice. That is, for now. Fully socializing medicine will bring about a new set of problems that are far more threatening than just “access to health care.” Socialized health insurance concentrates power into the hands of politicians and bureaucrats, and it opens the door to ever more government intrusion into other aspects of our lives.

Michael Moore is grossly overweight. Some experts claim that obesity is an epidemic that is imposing a heavy, and unnecessary, burden on our health care system. According to the Centers for Disease Control, obesity leads to myriad health problems including heart disease, some types of cancer, and stroke. Medical expenses attributed to overweight and obese people, says the CDC, “accounted for 9.1 percent of total U.S. medical expenditures in 1998 and may have reached as high as $78.5 billion ($92.6 billion in 2002 dollars). Approximately half of these costs were paid by [the government-run health insurance programs] Medicaid and Medicare.”

If we are all on the financial hook for Michael’s aggressive eating habits in a socialized health care system, it seems like the rest of us must get a say in what he eats. After all, under a government “global budget” for healthcare spending, every extra cheese pizza Michael Moore downs today may someday result in a denial of care for your truly ill child waiting in line for “free” health care.

I can imagine a new federal agency, perhaps within Homeland Security, assigned the job of enforcing “good” dietary habits on suspicious eaters – like Michael Moore. Maybe Mike’s buddy Fidel Castro knows how to make this work. As far as I can tell, the only fat people in communist Cuba are part of the political class. The rest of the Cuban people are just hungry.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: healthcare; hillarycare; michaelmoore; sicko; socializedmedicine
Michael Moore is too blinded by ideology (or perhaps by a deep fried Twinkie-induced blood sugar rush) to see the real problems with the U.S. health care system: the government is already too involved in the health decisions made by patients and their doctors. This has driven up prices and denied individuals the right to make health care choices for themselves and their families. To truly fix health care, we need to increase choice and competition, as well as reduce the insurance mandates and junk lawsuits that drive up costs.

Absolutely right!

1 posted on 07/07/2007 1:01:57 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee
Ask anyone on Social Security if their check comes on time every month. Like clockwork. And it comes through the so-called dilapidated U.S. mail.

Social Security benefits, are considerably easier to administer than health care funding. Furthermore, most Social Security benefits are sent by direct deposit, not by the bureaucratic, incompetent, in addition to dilapidated U. S. Postal Service.

2 posted on 07/07/2007 1:10:05 PM PDT by reg45
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To: wagglebee
Ask anyone on Social Security if their check comes on time every month. Like clockwork. And it comes through the so-called dilapidated U.S. mail.

There's a reason they are always on time. They are bulk-shipped to the individual post offices way ahead of time until the correct delivery date comes arrives....and that date is printed on each envelope.

3 posted on 07/07/2007 1:12:41 PM PDT by capt. norm (Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.)
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To: reg45
Social Security benefits are sent by direct deposit, not by the bureaucratic, incompetent, in addition to dilapidated U. S. Postal Service.

Direct deposit is an option. The default delivery is U.S. Mail...until you tell them otherwise.

4 posted on 07/07/2007 1:14:57 PM PDT by capt. norm (Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.)
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To: wagglebee
“Ask anyone on Social Security if their check comes on time every month. Like clockwork. And it comes through the so-called dilapidated U.S. mail.”

The checks are drafted from the general fund because the congress was incapable of keeping its hands off the SS money. And there is a new news story detailing how the postal service is going broke so fast they may have to charge extra for home delivery.

Yeah, the government does everything so well.

5 posted on 07/07/2007 1:21:39 PM PDT by Taichi (Certe, toto, sentio nos in kansate non iam adesse)
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To: reg45

Ask any liberal to walk into a veterans hospital and ask how they think govt. run medical care is working out. The very people that should be treated the best are treated the worst.


6 posted on 07/07/2007 1:44:50 PM PDT by Walkingfeather (u)
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To: wagglebee

Socialized medicine is a flop in Canada and Michael Moore is just plain a flop. If the Liberal Demoncrats took off their Soviet red glasses they would see it.


7 posted on 07/07/2007 1:50:24 PM PDT by RoadTest (The arrogance of academia is even greater than its ignorance.)
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To: capt. norm

Maybe Moore(on) believes that we need to deliver health care via the US Postal Service just like we deliver those SSI checks so effeciently. But at that same effecient Postal Service office, which American believes that it would be a great place to get health care considering that most people dread having to go to the Postal Service more than they do the mechanic.


8 posted on 07/07/2007 1:58:48 PM PDT by bpjam (Harry Reid doesn't represent me. I'm an American!)
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Call it what you like, but what this really means is that some people get the health care they need and others wait in a line for service.

So basically illegals get free health care and Americans suffer waiting in line, plus they get slapped with the bill?

Michael Moore is a Communist Sicko.

9 posted on 07/07/2007 2:02:28 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * U.Va. Engineering '09 * Friends Don't Let Friends Vote Democrat * Fred in 2008)
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To: wagglebee
and Canadian patients regularly come here for life-saving care. In fact, the Canadian system Michael Moore is so fond of is one of only three governments that make it illegal to buy private health insurance.

Maybe "illegal" there, but apparently not here.

We live in Snowbird country and during the winter season, it's almost impossible to get a doctor's appointment around here (and God forbid you need the ER) due to the swarms of Canadidians who use their sojourns down here to get all their treatments.

10 posted on 07/07/2007 2:12:11 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (...forward this to your 10 very best friends....)
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To: ErnBatavia

I’ve known several wealthy Canadians who come to the US for all but basic medical care.


11 posted on 07/07/2007 2:17:57 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

if you have an extremely important package or document that needs to be sent, do you use fedex or usps?


12 posted on 07/07/2007 2:48:27 PM PDT by JohnLongIsland
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To: reg45

But the mail doesn’t operate after 5pm, on holidays or sundays. Sorry Charlie if you get sick when your government doctor isn’t in.


13 posted on 07/07/2007 3:16:12 PM PDT by boop (Trunk Monkey. Is there anything he can't do?)
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To: rabscuttle385
So basically illegals get free health care and Americans suffer waiting in line, plus they get slapped with the bill?

Isn't that the way it is already?
14 posted on 07/07/2007 3:21:52 PM PDT by TxCopper
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To: wagglebee

VA hospitals are a great example of government run health care. Whenever the government runs things, you have bloated beauracracy, cronyism, malingerers, useless lazy redundant people and purchasing departments with no incentive for thrift.

Insurance companies perform a vital service in reining in doctor bills. Our US doctors make 5 times their European counterparts. Competition among insurance companies has made the Medicare Prescription Drug Program a resounding success costing far less than projected.

At least one or two useless transcribing bimbos could be eliminated from every doctor’s office if web-based technology were adapted by our Luddite physicians. How many billion$ would that save?

US physicians keep their prices high by limiting their numbers. Let’s expand our medical schools and let people post their opinions about doctors, and force doctors to post their prices so we have real competion for informed patients. The UK has imported foreign doctors who were not sufficiently vetted, to keep up with heightened demand for free services.

100% of us will die. The families of those who don’t have to pay often demand the most outlandish interventions (and forever blame the doctors) while people who are responsible for the payments can let go with dignity when there is no hope.

I haven’t seen Sicko but it sounds like a maudlin, one-sided tear-jerker. I invite anyone who wants Cuban-style medicine think about their Cuban-style paychecks limited to $30 a month, maximum. Would you like to depend on your daughter being a prostitute to put food on your table? That’s Cuba. Did Michael Moore mention that?


15 posted on 07/07/2007 3:42:06 PM PDT by bukkdems (Western democracies! Ban the niqab in public.)
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