Mark
Posted on 07/08/2007 7:03:43 AM PDT by gotribe
After more than 20 years of research and tinkering, it was time to celebrate.
Stanley Allen Meyer, his brother and two Belgian investors raised glasses in the Grove City Cracker Barrel on March 20, 1998.
Meyer said his invention could do what physicists say is impossible -- turn water into hydrogen fuel efficiently enough to drive his dune buggy cross-country on 20 gallons straight from the tap.
He took a sip of cranberry juice. Then he grabbed his neck, bolted out the door, dropped to his knees and vomited violently.
"I ran outside and asked him, 'What's wrong?' " his brother, Stephen Meyer, recalled. "He said, 'They poisoned me.' That was his dying declaration."
(Excerpt) Read more at dispatch.com ...
"Basically, it says you can't get something for nothing," Reay said.If only.
At first I thought I was reading something from Scrappleface
The whole thing was... is... a sham, a hoax. The court decision said as much, as did the experts who testified.
Hoax.
Hoax.
Now, let’s get on with the business of actually making such a car.
The news report that started it all -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIgOn1kRw5s
One of many works debunking the whole thing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y__YCvFF8iM&watch_response
The Wiki article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Meyer
Remember the 85 mpg carb? Yeah, the oil companies silence that too... Cheney, Haliburton... they’re all in it....
...Meyer's work defies the Law of Conservation of Energy, which states that energy cannot be created or destroyed.
...Two years later, a Fayette County judge found "gross and egregious fraud" in Meyer's contract negotiation with two businessmen. Their money was returned.
...In return, Meyer built the family a solar silo, designed to both heat and cool the home. The structure required thousands of clear resin "light guides," a crude form of fiber optics, which Meyer baked and molded in the family kitchen. Julia Hughes recalled the chemical stench. The system was supposed to channel the sun's rays into the tower's base to heat water and generate electricity for an air conditioner. Despite extensive efforts that included re-plumbing the house, the invention never worked.
Stephen Meyer recalled a phone call to his brother's home in the 1980s. "He turned to me and said, 'They just offered me $800 million. Should I take it?' "I said, 'Hell yes. How much money do you want?' "He got very quiet. When he got into that thinking process, I just let him alone," Stephen recalled.
oh c'mon...and here's the kicker
And what became of the dune buggy that captivated a community for at least a few years? A longtime friend of Meyer's, who doesn't want to be named because he fears that people will bother him about the invention, led a reporter to the basement of a property south of Columbus recently.
"I really shouldn't be showing you this," he said....
So, some guy has a billion-dollar invention just sitting in a garage somewhere....yeah right. What sucks people in to stuff like this, is that people want to believe it, so they suspend thier disbelief more than they should.
Mark
I’m tired of this fake stuff. Everyone knows the secret to almost limitless power is crystals.
Duh.
If only the secret had not been lost with Atlantis.
“so much in that story makes me question the credibility of this urban legend.”
People should remember those junior high science projects too. As I recall, I took an old model train transformer, and put the current through salt water.
Lesson #1, the copper wire just “disappears” from one of the wires, every time. Hmmm... I just discovered electro-plating!
Lesson #2, the hydrogen/oxygen gas mixture did produce a nice “bang” that worried my parents. However, the model train would’ve run a lot further with the electricity that was required to make the gas, than on the energy in the gas itself. That’s the first problem with hydrogen — it takes a lot more power to make it than it produces when burned.
Lesson #3, the experiment always used glass containers to gather the gas. As it turns out, hydrogen gas makes metals brittle, and it literally leaks out through pores in the metal. So, if you’re gonna store gas, which will be pressurized, you’ll either need to have composite (fiberglass) containers, or glass containers. Uh, does anyone remember the scene in “Jaws” where the SCUBA tank blows up in the shark’s mouth? Just saying...
Steam power should be tried again. The maintenance on the old steamers was intense, but those cars had serious power.
Hey TW,
Did you ever buy a cylinder of hydrogen gas? Comes in a very sturdy METAL cylinder, holds 2500 PSI worth of the stuff. And yes, it does leak out eventually. Maybe after several years, you will lose 50%. The cylinder contains just a fraction of the heat energy available in a 20 pound bottle of propane. Power cars with it? I don’t think so!
“Did you ever buy a cylinder of hydrogen gas?”
The space shuttle people don’t bother with the cylinders. They just use a big tank of liquid hydrogen.
Still have a couple of set's of drawings do you want to buy a copy? LOL
kinoxi is correct...The process of hydrolysis (splitting water into hydrogen and oxygen) requires 38% more energy than it nets. Its like investing in a stock that will only return 62 cents on each dollar over its life.
“kinoxi is correct...The process of hydrolysis (splitting water into hydrogen and oxygen) requires 38% more energy than it nets. Its like investing in a stock that will only return 62 cents on each dollar over its life.”
What’s the best current guess as to the return on corn that is made into ethanol?
What about various materials made into biodiesel?
Given that ethanol is basically white lightnin’ moonshine, shouldn’t NASCAR be the series that runs on ethanol, not the IRL? Junior Johnson would be the natural spokesman....
That was my first thought. Did Stanley not write any of this down somewhere? Surely he must have had to do some series mathematical or chemical calculations that would need to have been done on paper. If they were fixing to get investors, wouldn't he have already patented his method? He certainly wasn't a stranger to patents; the story said he had at least 20 of them.
The whole story sounds fishy to me, but there will be folks who will eat it up because they believe the oil companies don't want competition from petroleum free fuel, and will go to any lengths to get rid of it.
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