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Radical Islam’s Goal is Global Conquest
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Posted on 07/08/2007 7:44:09 PM PDT by rt66

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1 posted on 07/08/2007 7:44:11 PM PDT by rt66
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To: rt66

Don’t tell Ron Paul supporters that.


2 posted on 07/08/2007 7:46:23 PM PDT by Perdogg (This thread is 100% Immigration and Gluten free)
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To: rt66
Islamic Scholar Warns U.S. of 'Two-Faced' Muslims

NewsMax.com Wires

Thursday, June 20, 2002

WASHINGTON – A leader of the small worldwide Muslim reform movement is warning the West against wishful thinking as the U.S. government promotes an intensive dialogue with Islam.

"The dialogue is not proceeding well because of the two-facedness of most Muslim interlocutors on the one hand and the gullibility of well-meaning Western idealists on the other," Bassam Tibi said Tuesday in an interview with United Press International.

Syrian-born Tibi, who claims to be a direct descendant of the prophet Mohammed and teaches political science at Goettingen University in Germany, appealed for intellectual honesty in these exchanges.

This Is 'Peace'?

"First, both sides should acknowledge candidly that although they might use identical terms these mean different things to each of them. The word 'peace,' for example, implies to a Muslim the extension of the Dar al-Islam – or 'House of Islam' – to the entire world," explained Tibi, who is also a research scholar at Harvard University.

"This is completely different from the Enlightenment concept of eternal peace that dominates Western thought, a concept developed by Immanuel Kant," an 18th-century philosopher.

This Is 'Tolerance'?

"Similarly, when Muslims and the Western heirs of the Enlightenment speak of tolerance they have different things in mind. In Islamic terminology, this term implies abiding non-Islamic monotheists, such as Christians, Jews and Zoroastrians, as second-class believers. They are 'dhimmi,' a protected but politically immature minority."

According to Tibi, the quest of converting the entire world to Islam is an immutable fixture of the Muslim worldview. Only if this task is accomplished, if the world has become a "Dar al-Islam," will it also be a "Dar a-Salam," or a house of peace.

Tibi appealed to his co-religionists to "revise their understanding of peace and tolerance by accepting pluralism." Furthermore, he said, Muslim leaders should give up the notion of Jihad in the sense of conquest, as opposed to Jihad as an internal struggle of the individual.

Liberal Mush

Tibi's advice comes at a time when the U.S. government is urging American Muslim leaders to promote understanding for the United States in Islamic regions. To Tibi, this is more of a diplomatic endeavor than the promotion of a more profound theological understanding between Islam and the Judeo-Christian worldview prevalent in the West.

But Muzammil Siddiqi, one senior Islamic scholar the State Department consults with, told UPI he found that his efforts in furthering contacts between Muslim, Christian and Jewish theologians were having some success.

Indian-born Siddiqi is the director of the large Islamic Center of Orange County in California. In consultation with the State Department and in cooperation with the University of Kentucky, he traveled back and forth between the United States and the Middle East trying to convince Muslim theologians and jurists to meet with American church leaders.

"I have found that many, though not all, were ready to welcome visitors from America and also to come here to explore with Christians and Jews what we have in common," Siddiqi said.

Though Siddiqi's center is heavily engaged in interfaith activities, he made it clear that to him, as indeed for conservative Christians, syncretism – the mixing of religions – was anathema.

Common values should be sought out, he explained, and the equality of all believers respected, be they Muslims, Christians, Hindus or Buddhists. But the purity of the faith must not be compromised.

In an article in the prestigious Hamburg weekly Die Zeit, Tibi gave anecdotal evidence of how daunting a task this dialogue with Islam can be.

Staring in Horror at the Bible

The bishop of Hildesheim in Germany paid an imam a courtesy visit in his mosque. The imam handed the Catholic prelate a Koran, which he joyfully accepted. But when the bishop tried to present the imam with a Bible, the Muslim cleric just stared at him in horror and refused to even touch Christianity's holy book.

"The bishop was irritated because he perceived this behavior as a gross discourtesy," wrote Tibi, "but the imam had only acted according to his faith. For if an imam gives a bishop a Koran, he considers this a Da'Wa, or call to Islam."

This, explained Tibi, must be borne in mind when one engages in a dialogue with Muslim "scholars," for it corresponds to a verse in the Koran: "And say ... to those who are unlearned: 'Do ye submit yourselves?'" (Surah 3:20).
3 posted on 07/08/2007 7:46:43 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: rt66
The islamic text dictates suppression and/or annihilation of all opposing theologies.
5 posted on 07/08/2007 7:51:57 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: Baynative

Beat me to it. I thought that the Franks - and the rest of the world - had that figured out even before Charlemagne.


6 posted on 07/08/2007 7:56:04 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: rt66
Muslims keep telling everyone that they will settle for nothing less than domination of the world. Why does everyone keep saying "they don't mean that." Wake up people.
7 posted on 07/08/2007 7:56:19 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: rt66

Thanks for posting. Bump for morning read.


8 posted on 07/08/2007 7:58:50 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: rt66

Islam - the opportunistic disease of the world. We need an army of white blood cells.


9 posted on 07/08/2007 7:59:42 PM PDT by H.Akston (Conservatives are frugal with the public's resources.)
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To: rt66
Oh really? I guess if you read FrontPageMagazine there is some urgency, but if you ask the Euros, there is no urgency.

EU Questions Need for New Anti-Terror Chief
10 posted on 07/08/2007 8:05:23 PM PDT by JohnA
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To: rt66; IowaHawk
From IowaHawk

UK Warning: Look Out For People Doing Things

London - British public safety officials today increased the national alert level to "Quite Elevated Indeed" -- the highest category possible -- and appealed to UK citizens to "keep a sharp lookout for diverse people engaged in activities."

"We ask the public to report any behaviors by various people that may or may not be of a suspicious nature," said Lt. Clive Jameson of the Metropolitan Police Service. "We further ask the public to be especially vigilant for activities of broad stratas of people who may be from countries of some sort, especially those within the eastern and/or western hemisphere....."

11 posted on 07/08/2007 8:14:52 PM PDT by smoothsailing ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction"--President Ronald Reagan)
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To: Perdogg

Someone should tell the current President.


12 posted on 07/08/2007 8:19:13 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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To: All

War on terror is nothing more than a bumper sticker. John Edwards can’t be wrong............can he?


13 posted on 07/08/2007 8:19:47 PM PDT by eekitsagreek (dum dum DUUMMM!!!! I'm Captain Chaos and this is my faithful companion Cato! Say hello Cato!)
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To: kalee

He has pretty much proven that he gets it.


14 posted on 07/08/2007 8:20:12 PM PDT by Perdogg (This thread is 100% Immigration and Gluten free)
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To: H.Akston

The white cells are coming!

Pakistan is set to implode. Once it tips, India will kick a$$ as opposed to letting talibanani cavemen get control of the nuclear arsenal. Once Musharaff loses control/gets whacked, which is not far away, the gloves will come off.

Same with Iran/Syria. Excepting our Israeli friends are on the frontline. SO..the politics/resource calls and expectations will change.

Once Pakistan is spanked, HALF of the problem will go away. The other half lies in Iran/Syria.Once the JOOOS deal a nasty spanking,the dynamics will change.

Spank these places good, and the situation will clear

Iraq and Afghanistan will just fall into place.

This global aberation of cavemen philosophy should dry up.

Sure, they have 1400 years into this caveman cult crap...but face it - there is no room for that crap today.

It doesnt work - politically / economically


15 posted on 07/08/2007 8:23:27 PM PDT by himno hero
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To: rt66
Muslim scholars must go back to the books and come forward with a refashioned set of rules and a revised understanding of the rights and responsibilities of Muslims

Why bother? Junk the whole mess.

Mohammad didn't fly to heaven on a donkey.

16 posted on 07/08/2007 8:28:41 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: rt66

No shit, how long did it take you to figure this one out?


17 posted on 07/08/2007 8:30:28 PM PDT by lndrvr1972
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To: All; rt66

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NEVER FORGET

.

This new 21st Century of ours...
is about bringing...

‘LIBERTY and JUSTICE for ALL’..

...or there will be NONE AT ALL.

Beginning with freeing the women of the world to be all that they already are in GOD’s Eyes...

...and can be while here on the Earth.

.

NEVER FORGET

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18 posted on 07/08/2007 8:40:49 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: rt66

No, no!

The muslims abhor violence, I mean, CAIR launched an online petition back in May 2004 called “Not in the Name of Islam” so that Muslims worldwide could rise up in one voice to denounce terrorism..

Just go to http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?15103374 and see the massive response over the past three years from the billions of Muslims across the globe..


19 posted on 07/08/2007 8:42:59 PM PDT by Wil H (So just what IS the Globe's optimum temperature?)
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To: rt66

You mean Islam über alles?

Who woulda guessed?


20 posted on 07/09/2007 1:06:01 AM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (We have always been at war with global warming. Global cooling is our friend.)
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