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To: BlabItGrabIt

“in the back of the Book It says we win”

We only win if we get in the fight. Most people are sitting around waiting on the Apocalypse so they aren’t fighting at all.


11 posted on 07/09/2007 6:56:17 AM PDT by webstersII
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To: webstersII

http://prophetic.tv/wallnau/

Listen to this guy. Here’s the Word of the Lord for exactly that situation. He has a teaching called the 7 mountain strategy- it’s a blueprint for sustained societal change by the Kingdom.


14 posted on 07/09/2007 8:13:00 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (The FairTax and the North American Union are mutually exclusive.)
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To: webstersII

Not to worry, God’s gonna get them off there duff. Just watch and see. If prayer can move mountians, prayer can move people. I’m learning to quit complaining (not an easy lesson by any means) and pray =)


20 posted on 07/09/2007 9:47:01 AM PDT by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: webstersII
We only win if we get in the fight.

If by "we" you mean "us saved folks", then, no, we don't only win if we get in the fight; we win -- period.

But it actually goes deeper than that, because the fact is that we do not have an option as to whether or not we get in the fight. We were BORN into the fight; the entire context of life is warfare between Good and Evil, and the souls of men are the prize being fought over. Our only option is whether or not to acknowledge that we're in this fight, grab a sword and start swinging.

In THAT sense, and I think it's what you actually meant, YES, we very much need to get in the fight intentionally.

If "we" [us saved folks] actively engage the battle, we'll have a better grasp of reality than if we cower in the rear of the ranks or, worse, pretend there is no war going on. Regardless, though, whether we get bloody or cower in the back, we all win at the end. The only aspect that changes is the garnish, the basic reward package is the same, single "denarius" (ref. Matt. 20:1-16).

As for "waiting for the Apocalypse"; that's what happens when folks subscribe to bad eschatology. I've been in that category, myself, in the past, and recall feeling very much like a spectator; like there wasn't anything I needed to be doing apart from the standard "watch and pray" duties.

That's a HUGE discussion to broach, here, but I'll risk it just to assert this: we're all in this for the duration. May the Apocalypse find us waitching, praying, AND fighting the good fight of faith.

21 posted on 07/09/2007 11:30:39 AM PDT by HKMk23 (Nine out of ten orcs attacking Rohan were Saruman's Uruk-hai, not Sauron's! So, why invade Mordor?)
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