[PetroniusMaximus]

" No. I did not."

Yes you did. By appealing to the gravity of the Crucifixion you completely undermine you argument that the church service, which should be a remembrance of that event, should be fun, light and breezy!



Rev. Smith:  "Some people don't like church because it's boring, full of hypocrites and often led by greedy dudes who o­nly care about cash flow," Smith writes in a promotional flyer for his church, Momentum Christian Church. "And church is really boring, too. Did I mention that a lot of people hate church because it's boring? I usually do...   ...Worshippers say you won't be bored at Momentum."


Yea, that's some LUV! Smearing your fellow Christians - anybody that Rev. Smith finds "boring".

Oh, did I mention that Rev. Smith isn't boring....



"The cross shouts with that voice like the thundering of many waters, "I, YHVH, the o­nly God, Maker of Heaven and Earth, have LOVED you with an everlasting love, and My Heart's desire is that you accept the sacrifice I have made so that you and I can have intimate fellowship, now, o­n Earth, and forevermore, in Heaven."

It also shouts out "You've got a freaking big problem o­n your hands  - namely, if you don't repent your going to perish".

So why don't we kick up our heals, or grind our hips to some thumpin' rap music - pass the popcorn and the Starbucks while we consider the torture Christ went through to save us from the wrath of God???


"Were he among us today, you might well find him playing a part in a comedic skit at the church where Dan Smith ministers."

I SERIOUSLY doubt it. He would probably be o­n his face, like Moses, interceding for the children of Israel after their "worship party".

"It all comes down to this: Are we, the church, in the things we say and do, faithfully manifesting otherwise-unknowable love from God to our lost world?"

If you are doing it by throwing them a popcorn party then you are out of line with the teaching and methodology of Jesus and the disciples. We are a generation that has lost ALL SENSE of the holiness of God and of something called "reverence". The disciple and Jesus spent a great deal of time WARNING people of what lay ahead of them. Look at this...

"I know that after my departure fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock; and from among your own selves will arise men speaking twisted things, to draw away the disciples after them. Therefore be alert, remembering that for three years I did not cease night or day to admonish everyone with tears."

Hmmm... maybe Paul did that between comedy skits... 


"Let us not speak divisively against him "

See his quote above for an example of "divisive language".


Di5-Pwn3d


P.S. Come to think of it, the Greeks loved plays... why didn't Paul put o­n a plays for them???

[HKMk23]

Hey, look, I’m sorry, but we just can’t go on like this. You ignore nearly everything I say, refuse to address more than one or two lines of it at any depth, cherry-pick a point here or there to beat on, and then you’re just rude about it. I can’t fathom why you’re so hung up about what a church service needs to be like that there’s no room in your universe — the love of God notwithstanding — for any church to do things any differently than you would, as if ONLY YOUR way communicates the love of God. Yeah, right. Whatever.

See ya in 1,000 years.

Oh, and FWIW, Snidely Whiplash, I CAN’T be “Di5-Pwn3d”, the order of Adoption is signed by God — in BLOOD.