[goldstategop]

I do get it. In the old days, no one questioned the need to win. Today we have people committed to seeing their own country lose because they hate it.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[smoothsailing]

Ok, Goldie, you get it.

Biddle, the CFR, The WAPO, you get it all.

I know something about the old days too.

no one questioned the need to win.

Yeah, sure.

We've always had the weak sisters, Goldie, since the beginning.