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How Al Qaeda is Winning Even as it is Losing
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| J.D. Johannes
Posted on 07/11/2007 7:51:57 AM PDT by ZGuy
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posted on
07/11/2007 7:51:58 AM PDT
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ZGuy
To: ZGuy
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posted on
07/11/2007 7:54:51 AM PDT
by
John Cena
To: ZGuy
Unfortunately, we see a few “conservatives” who also believe the war is lost even after it has been won.
To: ZGuy
The media is honing the skills it developed in Viet Nam.
What is pathetic is that if the bad guys win, the media pukes will have their own heads off in no time.
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posted on
07/11/2007 8:07:28 AM PDT
by
Redleg Duke
("All gave some, and some gave all!")
To: ZGuy
What this shows is that the MSM in general is biased and it is reflected in their presentation of the news and questions.
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posted on
07/11/2007 8:09:09 AM PDT
by
Doc91678
(Doc91678)
To: Doc91678
I think the media is merely desperate when it writes articles such as this - they can’t stand seeing America succeed at anything (hence why Michael Moore gets so much airtime with his lies) but even more disconcerting to them is their darling Al Qaeda keeps getting their butts kicked.
To: Chi-townChief
Unfortunately, we see a few conservatives who also believe the war is lost even after it has been won.
Those republicans don't believe the war is lost. They're just unprincipled. What they do understand is that the public is the ultimate decision maker on their jobs and those republicans would rather sacrifice a victory in Iraq than their jobs here at home.
And the democrats would rather hand Al-Qaeda a victory in Iraq than to allow the U.S. to proceed with winning in Iraq. Winning in Iraq would be a disaster fo the democrats and they need to head off any possibility of Bush and the republicans being attributed with any kind of victory. A loss in Iraq would make the republicans, and Bush, look real bad, which would raise the fortunes of the democrats who would then be able to claim that Bush and the republicans got us into a war that we shouldn't have been in to begin with and which just cost us many lives and hundreds of billions in cost.
The democrats would have a victory and so would Al-Qaeda. But, that victory by the democrats would be short-lived because Al-Qaeda would be their co-victors and Al-Qaeda and other terror organizations are unrelenting in the pursuit of destructin of the U.S. and other western democracies. We would be forced, within a few months, to get back into the fight, except the next time around the fight would be much more deadly and costly. The democrats are just looking out for their political fortunes and abandoning what is good for the country.
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posted on
07/11/2007 8:20:50 AM PDT
by
adorno
To: Catholic Canadian
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posted on
07/11/2007 8:26:57 AM PDT
by
Doc91678
(Doc91678)
To: Redleg Duke
Seems the attempt not to ‘demonize’ the military during this conflict has failed also.
The July 4th Attack
When peaceniks attack, journalists snooze.
By Michelle Malkin
A young Air Force airman is fighting for his life in Camden, N.J. He was shot on Independence Day by a crazed gunman who reportedly had a beef with the military and the U.S. government and wanted to make a statement on the Fourth of July. Have you heard about the plight of 22-year-old McGuire Air Force Base loadmaster Jonathan Schrieken? Probably not.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YjUyNzcyOWE0NWE4YmMxY2UxNzJkZDJkZjA0MTdkM2Q=
P.S. Can anyone get the 2 ‘suicide’ notes?
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posted on
07/11/2007 8:35:05 AM PDT
by
griswold3
To: ZGuy
As long as pessimism pays, nothing will change...
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posted on
07/11/2007 8:45:03 AM PDT
by
Edgerunner
(If leftists don't like it, I do. Keep your powder dry...)
To: ZGuy
“What explains the downtick of confidence against a backdrop of success?”
Maybe because you are getting figures from a Pew Research Center poll. The figures very well could be accurate. But, how do we really know they don’t just pull numbers out of the air?
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posted on
07/11/2007 8:47:47 AM PDT
by
faq
To: ZGuy
How Al Qaeda is Winning Even as it is Losing
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posted on
07/11/2007 8:50:38 AM PDT
by
Polybius
To: faq
“Maybe because you are getting figures from a Pew Research Center poll. The figures very well could be accurate. But, how do we really know they dont just pull numbers out of the air?”
How about public opinion polling data from the Gallup Organization then?
http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=28099
To: jamese777
I was making an off topic comment that I don’t trust polls. As far as I can tell there is no oversight, regulation, auditors making sure they actually made phone calls. They don’t seem to be accountable to anyone. Seems like an area ripe for scammers. Either the employees or the organizations themselves.
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posted on
07/11/2007 9:53:56 AM PDT
by
faq
To: ZGuy
If 3600 deaths in a terrorist insurgency causes America to give up, then we will never be able to win another war. The enemy just has to adopt al Qaeda tactics--knock off a few Americans here and there, blow up civilians, pretend to have an anti-Western grievance, and bingo! you're on the nightly news and the public can only take it for a few years before they say "enough".
We can't win a war under those circumstances unless the press gets patriotic again (fat chance) or the government controls the reporting during wartime, as it did in the Civil War and WWI and WW2. You don't have to outlaw disagreement, but you can determine what gets reported and what doesn't about the battlefield. With totally accurate and relatively fair reporting, we could report this war in the exact opposite way and have the public thinking we are kicking ass, just as they were supportive of, say, D-Day, even when we lost 10,000 men. It was portrayed as a glorious victory.
If anti American intellectual socialists control the vast majority of the airwaves and papers, they will eventually bring down the morale of the American people. You have to get a handle on that problem before you can fight a war now. Or have a commander in chief who can swat the media down and bring the people with him, like Reagan.
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posted on
07/11/2007 9:58:19 AM PDT
by
Defiant
(Hunter if we can; Thompson if we can't; Romney if we must, Rudy if we wanna lose.)
To: Redleg Duke
What is pathetic is that if the bad guys win, the media pukes will have their own heads off in no time. Sounds more like justice to me, not pathetic.
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posted on
07/11/2007 9:59:17 AM PDT
by
Mogollon
To: ZGuy
It's too bad that many FR posters are posting the same blather about the war as the media.
To: Chi-townChief
Yes. They are the ‘Grim FReepers’.
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posted on
07/11/2007 10:47:33 AM PDT
by
Blue State Insurgent
(JFK, RMN and GWB all fought the CIA and lost.)
To: Catholic Canadian
The media didn't write this article. I've met this guy. He wants America to succeed.
Buy his DVD.
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posted on
07/13/2007 2:29:12 AM PDT
by
Cannoneer No. 4
(Civilian Irregular Information Defense Group http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com)
To: intenseracer; 2ndDivisionVet; Lurker; roaddog727; MizSterious; Tainan; AliVeritas; Liberty Wins; ...
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posted on
07/13/2007 2:32:24 AM PDT
by
Cannoneer No. 4
(Civilian Irregular Information Defense Group http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com)
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