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1 posted on 07/11/2007 7:51:58 AM PDT by ZGuy
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To: ZGuy

Al Queda sucks


2 posted on 07/11/2007 7:54:51 AM PDT by John Cena
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To: ZGuy

Unfortunately, we see a few “conservatives” who also believe the war is lost even after it has been won.


3 posted on 07/11/2007 7:56:08 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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The media is honing the skills it developed in Viet Nam.

What is pathetic is that if the bad guys win, the media pukes will have their own heads off in no time.

4 posted on 07/11/2007 8:07:28 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("All gave some, and some gave all!")
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What this shows is that the MSM in general is biased and it is reflected in their presentation of the news and questions.


5 posted on 07/11/2007 8:09:09 AM PDT by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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As long as pessimism pays, nothing will change...


10 posted on 07/11/2007 8:45:03 AM PDT by Edgerunner (If leftists don't like it, I do. Keep your powder dry...)
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“What explains the downtick of confidence against a backdrop of success?”

Maybe because you are getting figures from a Pew Research Center poll. The figures very well could be accurate. But, how do we really know they don’t just pull numbers out of the air?


11 posted on 07/11/2007 8:47:47 AM PDT by faq
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How Al Qaeda is Winning Even as it is Losing


12 posted on 07/11/2007 8:50:38 AM PDT by Polybius
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If 3600 deaths in a terrorist insurgency causes America to give up, then we will never be able to win another war. The enemy just has to adopt al Qaeda tactics--knock off a few Americans here and there, blow up civilians, pretend to have an anti-Western grievance, and bingo! you're on the nightly news and the public can only take it for a few years before they say "enough".

We can't win a war under those circumstances unless the press gets patriotic again (fat chance) or the government controls the reporting during wartime, as it did in the Civil War and WWI and WW2. You don't have to outlaw disagreement, but you can determine what gets reported and what doesn't about the battlefield. With totally accurate and relatively fair reporting, we could report this war in the exact opposite way and have the public thinking we are kicking ass, just as they were supportive of, say, D-Day, even when we lost 10,000 men. It was portrayed as a glorious victory.

If anti American intellectual socialists control the vast majority of the airwaves and papers, they will eventually bring down the morale of the American people. You have to get a handle on that problem before you can fight a war now. Or have a commander in chief who can swat the media down and bring the people with him, like Reagan.

15 posted on 07/11/2007 9:58:19 AM PDT by Defiant (Hunter if we can; Thompson if we can't; Romney if we must, Rudy if we wanna lose.)
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It's too bad that many FR posters are posting the same blather about the war as the media.
17 posted on 07/11/2007 10:21:22 AM PDT by what's up
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Leadership is missing in Congress. Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid have concluded there's nothing America can do to vanquish Al Qaeda. They have committed the Democratic Party to defeat and in effect, have saw off the limb behind them. A turnaround in Iraq would be politically disastrous to the Democratic Party's election prospects next year. That is why they are battling to make sure Gen. Petraeus cannot report even modest gains by September 15th.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

21 posted on 07/13/2007 2:34:33 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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The media pulled this crap during Vietnam. Then they predicted this would be another Vietnam, a war they lost in America's living rooms, even as the troops kicked butt.

Now those jerks are out to fulfil their prophecy.

The Dems in Congress were singing the same tune, right in harmony with the media, and they are not only not going to lose political face over it (by selling out out troops and America), they are in a position to make sure it happens.

If we had the media they had during WWII, our guys would be done and home, and the Al-Qeida types would have packed it in. There would be no propaganda war to win.

22 posted on 07/13/2007 5:29:26 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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