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To: cousair

Agreed. Rudy has a far more substantial national campaign than Mitt and one is astounded at the numbness of many Pub voters when they delete him already . The MSM wants Rudy gone. They will also try to delete Fred. If that leaves Mitt, we are all toast. The Rudy-Fred ticket is still the one that I think could actually win. We shall see. The Dems could still implode but with the surrender monkeys in the NE RINO Pub Senators, the GOP might implode before.


84 posted on 07/11/2007 12:13:27 PM PDT by phillyfanatic ( w)
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To: phillyfanatic

I totally agree...Mitt has money, and people around him that could put him in the WH, but I don’t think America wants that. I like Rudy because he is a proven leader, but he is a lib on a lot of points. Until or unless someone else comes along..I will watch him. Fred is a winner, but it takes fire in the belly to want this job, and I am not sure he has that. He might work well with Rudy...and as you say...we shall see.


110 posted on 07/12/2007 8:06:00 AM PDT by cousair
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To: phillyfanatic

“Agreed. Rudy has a far more substantial national campaign than Mitt and one is astounded at the numbness of many Pub voters when they delete him already .”

Rudy is a liberal who is wrong on immigration (pro ‘sanctuary city’), guns (pro gun control), welfare reform (opposed it), abortion (got an award from NARAL), judges (thinks pro-Roe judges are just fine), Constitution (see previous on his weak bill of rights record), spending (for more spending), stem cells, marriage (against FMA). He’s on the Democrat’s side on many issues, which is wrong!

We want Rudy to not win because nominating a Liberal Republican will destroy the unity of the party, destroy our chances in many races, and hand over massive majorities to the Democrats. That’s just mindless!

” The MSM wants Rudy gone. They will also try to delete Fred. If that leaves Mitt, we are all toast.”
The MSM has attacked Mitt Romney more than anyone else...
And yet in the Mitt Romney versus Hillary Clinton matchup, Mitt was down only 5 points. All this without the national name ID of Hillary.

” The Rudy-Fred ticket is still the one that I think could actually win.”

WRONG! Rudy is *LESS ELECTABLE THAN FRED THOMPSON* and less electable than Mitt Romney. Here’s why:
1) All Rudy’s liberal positions will poison the base towards him. For years the conservative base has carried the water for less-conservative national candidates, in hopes of getting some crumbs from the table ... Well with the big spending GOP Congress and Bush’s immigration reform, the base has rebelled... they (we) will not carry water for RINOs any more. I personally am not contributing to RNC anymore because of RINOs and you can see it in fundraising overall - GOP fundraising is down at these ‘central groups’.
2) Rudy’s other big weaknesses are corruption and competence. Just watch while Kerik and other Rudy decisions/friends come back to haunt him as the MSM tars Rudy as another GWB. This is the them the Dems will run on, and Rudy plays right into it.

” We shall see. The Dems could still implode but with the surrender monkeys in the NE RINO Pub Senators, the GOP might implode before.”

We have to be SMART if we want to avoid implosion, and the number 1 key is to get a unifying candidate. RUDY DIVIDES THE PARTY due to his many deviations from the core principles of the party, SO HE IS UNACCEPTABLE. If Romney, Thompson, Hunter, or whoever else can come forward and *unite* the party - that person should be our candidate.

A UNITED REPUBLICAN PARTY CAN WIN IN 2008!


114 posted on 07/12/2007 9:45:01 AM PDT by WOSG ( Don't tell me what you are against, tell me what you are FOR.)
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