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Chertoff: Respect Muslim-Americans (gag alert)
The Associated Press. ^ | July 11, 2007 | The Associated Press.

Posted on 07/11/2007 1:58:29 PM PDT by Baladas

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To: Baladas

Hes is a politician, 100% pure. He has no business in the job he’s in, and that is 100% the responsibility of the person who put him there. SAD. TRAGIC. SICKENING.


61 posted on 07/11/2007 2:51:38 PM PDT by return to sender
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To: Baladas
Nope, sorry. When peaceful, moderate Muslims come out in any meaningful way and in significant numbers against terrorism committed in the name of their religion, then I will treat them with respect. Until them, they need to be expelled from this country. Crusades didn’t go far enough. We should nuke them and resolve the problem before they develop the capability.
62 posted on 07/11/2007 2:55:01 PM PDT by Heartland Mom (Build the fence, secure our borders, deport illegals - Protect our sovereignty!)
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To: ASA Vet
Okay, you had said "posts and threads", and that confused me. But not as much as Tony Snow is - he's all over the place on this:

So I think that's a reflection of Michael Chertoff's belief that this is a time for vigilance. But I do want to make it clear that, again, there is no specific or credible threat at this juncture to our homeland. But on the other hand, we've seen that there are a lot of people who are determined to try to create acts of bloodshed, and we all ought to be on the lookout to help one another.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/07/20070711-6.html Maybe yes, maybe no, maybe yes, maybe no...

63 posted on 07/11/2007 2:55:25 PM PDT by Baladas
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To: Baladas
This man is one of the main reasons many have lost faith in our president.

In its short life the Dept. Of Homeland Security was first run by an incompetent political hack who was then replaced by this incompetent idiot.
The president has treated this important position as a place park political chums instead of America's front line in the War On Terror and the invasion of the country by illegals.

Chertoff spends his time acting as the Public Relations director for illegal aliens and Islamic support groups while his own department cannot do its job because of ineffective leadership.

I can no longer even stand to hear his whining voice.


64 posted on 07/11/2007 2:55:42 PM PDT by BoneShaker ("There is no distinctly native American criminal class except Congress." - Mark Twain)
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To: Prokopton
And the government is a republic, and not a democracy to keep the unwashed masses from having too much power.



That was why the Senate was originally appointed by the state governments.

And why the president is technically elected by electors, and not directly.

And why federal justices have terms for life or until they choose to resign (barring they don't get impeached).



Ultimately, the people were given power, but enough was kept out of their direct control.

Smart decision by the founding fathers.

65 posted on 07/11/2007 3:02:08 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Baladas
Chertoff has done a good job at DHS. There have been no successful terrorist attacks in the U.S. during his tenure there.

I hope he will remain at DHS for the foreseeable future - unless he can replace Alberto Gonzales as Attorney General.

66 posted on 07/11/2007 3:03:36 PM PDT by HAL9000
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To: Baladas

He probably had a gut feeling he should burn a churchfull of people.

Citizens.

He has to make room for his muchachos.


67 posted on 07/11/2007 3:04:34 PM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (What would Beowulf do?)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Oh, yeah!


68 posted on 07/11/2007 3:08:10 PM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (What would Beowulf do?)
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To: BoneShaker

“...This man is one of the main reasons many have lost faith in our president....”

Like your president, he is doing what he’s told.


69 posted on 07/11/2007 3:11:32 PM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (What would Beowulf do?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Ultimately, the people were given power

You really don't get it, do you? The people have all the power and gave some to the state and Federal governments. The people were NOT given power by the Constitution. They agreed to relinquish some of the power they had, not near as much as our "modern" politicos think, to the government. We (the people) gave the power to the government and we can take it away.

70 posted on 07/11/2007 3:14:50 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Baladas
It's also important at this time not to forget your keys, when you leave the house. Also, eat over a plate and it's especially important at this time, to keep both fingernails and toenails clean.
71 posted on 07/11/2007 3:16:50 PM PDT by unspun (FReep Bill O'Reilly on Iraq!)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Why Nazi Germans? Even you qualify it as being Nazi German, not just German.

Islamofascists are a direct threat to the nation, not the average run-of-the-mill Muslim American

Peep this: You cannot tell a Nazi German from a German by looking at (or even, really, listening to) them.

So In WWII, we rounded up all the Japanese and we did the same with German Americans -- in smaller numbers, and to include deportation.

You cannot tell a 'moderate Muslim' from an Islamofascist by looking at (or even, really, listening to) them.

Round 'em up.

72 posted on 07/11/2007 3:17:07 PM PDT by Lazamataz (JOIN THE NRA: https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
And now, Miss Manners, I mean, Sec. Chertoff...

IS OUR HOMELAND SECURE?

HOW ABOUT THE BORDERS, FOR INSTANCE?

73 posted on 07/11/2007 3:18:54 PM PDT by unspun (FReep Bill O'Reilly on Iraq!)
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To: Prokopton
Respectfully (literally), what you don't seem to get is the main point--that vigilantism is BAD. (Remember, some posts ago?). Mob rule is BAD. Anarchy is BAD. Chaos is BAD. Having a bunch of vigilantes lynching Muslim Americans is BAD.

If there is to be any punishment, then that is the reserve of the [freely elected] government [by the people]. To give the American people unrestrained free rule is insane. People do not have the right, nor should they, to take the law into their own hands.

74 posted on 07/11/2007 3:21:54 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Joe Boucher
"Of all say 2500 terrorist attacks in the last year, what would you say, 2489 were committed by Mooselimbs?"

You were able to find 11 that weren't?

You're far more diligent than I. You must be some sort of muslim apologist.

75 posted on 07/11/2007 3:22:10 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: CharlesWayneCT
OK, I’ll bite. Are we supposed to DISRESPECT Americans if they are Muslim?

I'll bite back.

This American disrespects them, every one.

They embrace a psudeo-religious creed that fundamentally and irrevocably opposed to everything we of The West embrace as freedom.

I will consider "respecting" American Muslims who renounce Islam for another faith. Then, and ONLY then, will I be able to trust or respect them.

Sorry if you don't like that, but that's the way it is with me.

I will go so far as to say, that it is also that way for a considerable number of other posters in this forum.

- John

76 posted on 07/11/2007 3:22:52 PM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu; Prokopton
So, you could type that the American people relinquished power to the government and imposed restraints on themselves to limit themselves.

If those semantics work for you, then smart decision by the American people.

77 posted on 07/11/2007 3:26:49 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: The Lumster; G Larry; dirtboy
Regarding vigilantism, I've thought for a long time that no Americans (en masse) would resort to taking matters in their own hands, ala 9/11. There would only be the occasional minor outburst.

I believe that mindset is incorrect now.

Should there be numerous attacks on schools, with multiple fatalities and injuries , few mosques would escape unscathed. Mall attacks might provoke a similar response, but not like attacks on children.

Nam Vet

78 posted on 07/11/2007 3:32:04 PM PDT by Nam Vet (Timely reporting from Attila's right flank)
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To: Baladas

Why is a Federal official, who is responsible for American national security policy, addressing a race-based special interest group?


79 posted on 07/11/2007 3:52:39 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Baladas

Why is a Federal official, who is responsible for American national security policy, addressing a race-based special interest group?


80 posted on 07/11/2007 3:52:55 PM PDT by montag813
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