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Haditha case seen as losing strength: Evidence against Marines called weak
San Diego Union-Tribune ^ | July 12, 2007 | Alex Roth and Rick Rogers

Posted on 07/12/2007 5:56:51 AM PDT by RedRover

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1 posted on 07/12/2007 5:56:54 AM PDT by RedRover
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To: 4woodenboats; aculeus; American Cabalist; AmericanYankee; AndrewWalden; Antoninus; AliVeritas; ...

2 posted on 07/12/2007 5:58:49 AM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RedRover
And the libel case against Murtha and Time mag starts when?
3 posted on 07/12/2007 5:59:59 AM PDT by xcamel ("It's Talk Thompson Time!" >> irc://irc.freenode.net/fredthompson)
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To: RedRover

Courtesy of Mark Levin -

Pick up the phone.
Dial 1-202-225-2065.
Your message to Lardass must be short but respectful.

“Mr. Murtha - Apologize or Resign.”

Thank Me.


4 posted on 07/12/2007 6:02:27 AM PDT by sono (Where there is a choice only between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence - M Gandhi)
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To: sono; smoothsailing
And how about CNN doing a follow-up story?


5 posted on 07/12/2007 6:05:25 AM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RedRover
Stone got off. Chessani has to get off for the same reason.
How 2 investigators come to 2 different conclusions with the same set of circumstances, is beyond me.

These are By-God Marines - the baddest buck-buck breakers in the world. Murtha maligns them and dishonors them, and in-turn, dishonors himself.

The only good thing is, Murtha is about to eat shoe leather.

6 posted on 07/12/2007 6:05:50 AM PDT by stylin19a (Since bad golf shots come in groups of 3, a 4th bad shot is the start of the next group of 3)
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To: RedRover
Evidence against Marines called weak

To quote my kids... "well duh!"

That $&%(@*($ Murtha is a piece of work isn't he? That's one sure way to raise my blood pressure every day. Ugh.

7 posted on 07/12/2007 6:10:50 AM PDT by StarCMC (This country is not free by the pen but by the back,brains and bullets of a soldier. ~advertsng guy)
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To: xcamel
And the libel case against Murtha and Time mag starts when?

For get libel. How about treason?

8 posted on 07/12/2007 6:12:21 AM PDT by StarCMC (This country is not free by the pen but by the back,brains and bullets of a soldier. ~advertsng guy)
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To: RedRover
So here we learn that the U.S. pays up to $2500 to the family of Iraqi civvies killed in a military action.

This is a fortune to most of them.

Throws a whole new light on this case, doesn't it? Purchased testimony can and likely will be half-truths, quarter-truths or no truths at all.

These cases against our fighting men are evidence of the cultish Political Correctness and betrayal emanating from high D.C. politicians. It ends with the sacrificing of our trusting and loyal troops on the altar of these PC lusts.

Leni

9 posted on 07/12/2007 6:14:18 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Three Cheers for the FRed, White and Blue !)
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To: MinuteGal

Someone in a previous post suggested that maybe the U.S. was bending over backward to prove that we don’t have to belong to the United Nations International Criminal Court, to conduct a war according to the law (which the “insurgents” don’t bother with, but who’s prosecuting them?) and so they are creating cases that don’t have any validity to prove that point. If that is so, then who is behind all this?


10 posted on 07/12/2007 6:29:42 AM PDT by MondoQueen
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To: StarCMC

Here’s a link to US criminal codes that deal with such issues.

http://www.access.gpo.gov/uscode/title18/parti_chapter115_.html

* Sec. 2381. Treason.
* Sec. 2382. Misprision of treason.
* Sec. 2383. Rebellion or insurrection.
* Sec. 2384. Seditious conspiracy.
* Sec. 2385. Advocating overthrow of Government.
* Sec. 2386. Registration of certain organizations.
* Sec. 2387. Activities affecting armed forces generally.
* Sec. 2388. Activities affecting armed forces during war.
* Sec. 2389. Recruiting for service against United States.
* Sec. 2390. Enlistment to serve against United States.
* Sec. 2391. Repealed.

Another freeper posted the link or one very much like it on another thread awhile back. Maybe one of our resident legal eagles can find something to work with.


11 posted on 07/12/2007 6:30:16 AM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: xcamel

when all the marines are acquited or not prosecuted


12 posted on 07/12/2007 6:36:15 AM PDT by art_rocks
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To: StarCMC

:) Yeah, I was feeling good after reading the article; then got to the Murtha clips and my blood started to boil...


13 posted on 07/12/2007 6:43:13 AM PDT by pinkpanther111 (They were doing their jobs!!! Defend our Marines)
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To: sono
“Mr. Murtha - Apologize or Resign.”

No.

 

“Mr. Murtha - Apologize AND Resign.”

14 posted on 07/12/2007 6:46:58 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: xcamel
And the libel case against Murtha and Time mag starts when?

SSgt. Wuterich has already instituted a case; I hope the others will join it once the hearings are concluded.

15 posted on 07/12/2007 6:50:31 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: MinuteGal; Girlene; RedRover
From the Investigating Officer's report....

The Iraqi's first statements to NCIS were taken in a group setting, five months after the events occurred and with knowledge that other families in Haditha had received monetary componsation from the United States for events that occurred on 19 November, 2005. The interview that resulted in the witness statements were taken by Special Agent Mannle in a group setting, with each witness adding details and discussing the events in Arabic with one another in front of Special Agent Mannle who does not speak Arabic. Additionally, although $10,000 does not appear to be a large amount of money, testimony from Maj. Hiatt suggested that such a sum of money was equal to 4 times the average annual salary of a typical resident of Haditha. Prior to making these claims, no payments were made to the Ahmed family. The Ahmed familiy was represented by an attorney who represents other families who received compensation for Marines killing their family memmbers. Shortly after making these claims, the Ahmed family was paid $10,000 in Solatio payments.

(Hat tip to Girlene for this excerpt and Red Rover for making the full IO report available here.

16 posted on 07/12/2007 6:51:13 AM PDT by smoothsailing ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction"--President Ronald Reagan)
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To: art_rocks
“We always thought this was political,”

Political, not criminal. How do the Marines prosecute a war when they can't kill the enemy? How do the Marines kill the enemy when he hides behind the skirts of his women and baby carriages of his children? Haditha.

Then the politicos prosecute the Marines for doing their job.

17 posted on 07/12/2007 6:53:27 AM PDT by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent..)
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To: RedRover; All
Good article in the Union-Tribune. What a difference in the news coverage now and what it was a year ago and more. When the truth comes out the media with an agenda can't write whatever they want.

If you would like to help with the civilian lawyer’s legal fees for the
Haditha Marines you can do so by going to these sites.

Defend Our Marines

Lance Cpl. Justin Sharratt

SSgt. Frank Wuterich

Lance Cpl. Stephen B. Tatum

Lt. Col. Jeffrey Chessani

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18 posted on 07/12/2007 7:40:59 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: Grimmy

And then there’s sedition which is a whole other ballgame.


19 posted on 07/12/2007 8:14:01 AM PDT by StarCMC (This country is not free by the pen but by the back,brains and bullets of a soldier. ~advertsng guy)
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sounds like they were NIFONGED.........God Bless these men.


20 posted on 07/12/2007 8:16:21 AM PDT by tioga (I'll take Duncan Hunter or Fred Thompson for President. Pick one.)
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