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(Senate) Plan Calls for 61-Cent Federal Tobacco Tax Increase
http://www.jointogether.org/ ^ | July 12, 2007

Posted on 07/12/2007 5:31:24 PM PDT by lowbridge

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SCHIP and the tobacco tax: How real life is better than the movie

On Tuesday, before President Bush vetoed the SCHIP bill, his spokeswoman said this about the Democratic plan to finance the expansion of the children’s health insurance program with an increase in the cigarette tax:

“In a time when [Democrats] think that they want to increase funding for children’s health care, they’re actually wanting to pay for it with a cigarette tax, which includes — people who smoke are usually — the majority are in the low-income bracket.   And so they’re raising taxes on something to pay for a middle-class entitlement.”

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/shared-blogs/ajc/politicalinsider/entries/2007/10/03/schip_and_the_tobacco_tax_how.html

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161 posted on 10/09/2007 10:32:28 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (Other People's Money))
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To: lowbridge; SheLion

Almost free - and 'for the children'

Thursday, October 4, 2007

The latest Washington Post-ABC News poll found that 7 in 10 Americans support the new bill to increase the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) by $35 billion, which President Bush vetoed Wednesday.

Of course most Americans support the bill. It's for the children, and the way supporters push it, it's practically free.

If Bush seems so clearly out of touch with the voters (as well as moderate and conservative elected Republicans) on the politics, then on a policy level he had reason to veto the bill. The Senate and House have found the worst mechanism to fund the SCHIP expansion - a 61-cents per pack increase in cigarette taxes.

It is as if Washington Dems and Repubs have reached a cynical pact - an agreement to pass bills which expand the size and scope of government, without ever coming up with an honest way to pay for them.

The cigarette tax is regressive and inadequate. But that matters little. In this Washington, no program is so important that average taxpayers should have to pay to expand it.

For Bush's part, like many Repubs, he opposes any tax hike, including a tax increase to fund SCHIP. Democrats want bigger government, without cutting other domestic programs. So both parties have fallen into a default agreement - more spending without even a modest, broad-based tax to fund it.

Supporters talk about providing more health care for poor children. Yet in six states, the Bush administration points out, SCHIP spends more on adults than children. Urban Institute health policy expert Genevieve M. Kenney explained that some 10 states, which had expanded health care for kids, were granted federal waivers to use SCHIP money for adults. She added that the new congressional bill would sharply limit SCHIP funding for adults.

The Bushies also argue that the congressional bill isn't about providing health care for poor kids - as it would expand SCHIP for children of the middle class, with family incomes as high as $62,000 per year - many of whom already receive employer-funded health care. In short, the vetoed bill does not put the neediest kids first.

Actually, the Bushies have argued the bill could cover children with families earning as much as $83,000 annually - but that dishonest figure, as the Washington Post pointed out, represents a request by New York to cover families earning four times the poverty level, which the administration nixed.

"With the stroke of a pen, President Bush has robbed nearly 4 million uninsured children of the chance for a healthy start in life and the health coverage they need but can't afford," Sen. Hillary Clinton, R-N.Y., announced in a statement issued by her campaign. That statement also is off. Clinton should know that a third of the children who would sign up with SCHIP if Congress overrides the Bush veto already have coverage through their parents' employers.

Democrats also have bashed Bush for (a) exercising fiscal restraint on SCHIP after bankrolling the Iraq war and (b) for using his veto power on SCHIP after under-utilizing in the first term.

Essentially they are arguing that (a) since the country has gone to war, Bush should abandon all fiscal restraint on domestic spending and (b) that he should continue to stick to hyper-spending, which voters rejected in 2006 - just to be consistent.

Nuts on both counts.

Although I do think Kenney had a point when she told me, "The funding increase that's being requested to support this program is small, relative to the size of the federal budget and certainly relative to the size of other programs." Kenney doesn't think SCHIP should be "held hostage to the quagmire."

Already, the Bush administration is making noises about a compromise. Tuesday, Health and Human Services Secretary Michael Leavitt told the Washington Post that President Clinton vetoed welfare reform legislation twice before cutting a deal with Republicans in 1996 and signing a bill.

The next question is: Do Democrats want a new bill, or do they want a Bush veto to help them win in 2008?

This much we know: If Washington does pass a bill, both parties will cut a deal that only pretends to fund the expansion. And while Bush says he wants to put "poor kids first," he'll be in a corner that may force him to accommodate the Democratic leadership's plan to expand SCHIP to the middle class.

I, too, believe in providing health care for needy children, but in this country, we've forgotten how to draw a line.

E-mail: dsaunders@sfchronicle.com

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/10/04/EDRDSJ5FB.DTL

This article appeared on page B - 7 of the San Francisco Chronicle


It's for the CHILDREN!


162 posted on 10/09/2007 10:58:11 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (Other People's Money))
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Speaking of that, a man we buy guns from told my hubby to start buying all the ammo he can now, the prices are going to go sky high after the first of the year.

Ammo prices have been rising about 10% every quarter this year. The demand for metals is the driving force. Copper has risen to the point that people are ripping down power lines to sell it. The steel used to build the firearms themselves has gone through the roof. The S&W 686+ that I purchased for $437 in 1999 is now listed for $895. Precious metals? My firearms have doubled in value...mostly due to increased metal costs.

163 posted on 10/10/2007 9:15:03 AM PDT by Myrddin
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