The Inside Scoop: Edwards loses lead in N.C. (Fred Thompson leads GOP)

Greensboro News-Record ^ | July 10, 2007 | Nate DeGraff, Mark Binker and Jonathan Jones

[Soul Seeker]

Oh, please.

Gingrich is drawing 13% of the vote and he hasn’t declared. Are you going to whine about him too, or is it just Thompson you have an issue with?

Give us credit for having a brain. We all know Fred is running. And we all know Gingrich will run if Thompson can’t take control of the lead or at least be neck and neck with Rudy in the coming months.

I don’t need the Dems to admit they want us to lose in Iraq, to know they do. And I don’t need a formal declaration to know Fred is running.

[maine-iac7]

A horse can't lead a race it hasn't entered.

a horse that's smart enough to let all those horses that left the gate way too early and will have to do two laps worth of running, all the while kicking and biting each other, will tire themselves and everyone else out before the finish line - and a horse that has waited for the right time to start can breeze on by with ease -

[maine-iac7]

Could someone with internet video experience throw together a fake Edwards ad featuring a little girl stroking the hair of My Little Pony or something and then post it here? That would be a blast.

Nothing can top his own hair combing video - Love this one set to the West Side Story song - hilarious

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AE847UXu3Q

Actually, I think this video has done him in 0- he's a laughing stock

[maine-iac7]

he isn't using taxpayer funds and resources for security unlike the candidates who formally declared many months ago. The Secret Service has neither the funds nor the manpower to sustain security for each of the myriad candidates in this ridiculously long campaign marathon. As a result, security staff have been pulled from Border Patrol and TSA Airport Security to babysit the early bird candidates.

Exactly - there should be a McCain/Feingold bill in reverse - there should be a time limit for entering a campaign - they're not only costing the above - they're spending most of their time campaigning instead of what they're getting paid for. The new bill should also dock the sitting politicians pay checks for time spent "off the job."

[The Pack Knight]

Which Dem running would, in your opinion, be the most difficult to defeat? The easiest to defeat?

Of the big three, Edwards would be the easiest, I should say. Every time I see him on television, I find myself both amused and embarrassed for my adopted home state. In debates, he demands specific policies from the other candidates, then offers empty platitudes and vagarities when it's his turn to answer policy questions. He refuses to put himself in any situation where he might be challenged, instead sending his seriously ill wife to draw fire. When he tries to pass himself off as a man of the people, like when he turned over a few shovelfuls in New Orleans before announcing his candidacy, he comes off as so phony that even the most credulous liberal must cringe.

John Edwards will not be President, even if we nominate Bob Dole next year.

As for the most difficult, I actually believe Bill Richardson would be the most worrisome. He has a moderate reputation, even if his policies don't reflect it. He could benefit from nostalgia over the Clinton years, especially since he's relatively untainted by their more ghastly episodes. He's highly unlikely to win the nomination, however.

Between Hillary and Obama, I think I would be more worried about Obama. Hillary has the smear machine and the aggressiveness, but Obama has shown himself willing to get in the mud himself. Where Hillary is uniformly reviled on the right and distrusted on the far left, Obama seems to be generating some real excitement among the Democrat base and even among some independents. Obama is just as empty a suit as Edwards, but he is far better at hiding it, and, to be brutally honest, enjoys some degree of immunity to accusations that he is a policy lightweight due to his skin color. Many voters will give him a pass on some of his more embarrassing gaffes as long as he follows the tried and true liberal tactic of promising something for everyone. I think we can beat Obama, but he seems to have the most upside for the Democrats.

I know the Dick Morrises of the world are certain that Hillary will be the next President, but I'm not yet convinced that she'll even be the nominee. While Obama could just be the next Dean-esque flash in the pan, it's impossible to ignore the excitement surrounding his candidacy as opposed to Hillary's. At the very least, Hillary has a fight on her hands.

[Buffalo Head]

"It's too bad people assume he is a candidate even though he hasn't declared."

Fred is old enough to remember Ali's "Rope-a-dope". Are you?

[2ndDivisionVet]

I’m surprised the feds don’t have a private firm guarding the candidates, it’d probably be more efficient and cost effective.

[The Pack Knight]

When he tries to pass himself off as a man of the people, like when he turned over a few shovelfuls in New Orleans before announcing his candidacy, he comes off as so phony that even the most credulous liberal must cringe.

Oh, and by the way, when you saw Edwards' antics, was anyone else reminded of this?



"Thirty years from now... you won't have to say, 'Well, I shoveled shit in Louisiana.'."

[Man50D]

Rather than worrying about public campaign funding, I suggest you do some research to learn how early this campaign season began compared with other U.S. Presidential campaigns in modern history.

You need to read my posts more closely. My only statement with respect to campaign funding was to show declaring is more than a technicality as one poster claimed because it makes the candidate eligible for funding.

Rather than acting disturbed that Fred Thompson has not formally declared, you should be relieved because he isn't using taxpayer funds and resources for security unlike the candidates who formally declared many months ago

You're continued misinterpretation of my statements is only exceeded by your annoyance of the fact Fred is not yet a candidate. Fred running won't disturb me in the least. As I stated in post #15 he maybe the best candidate, if he runs. I hope he does. It would make the race more interesting.

The Secret Service has neither the funds nor the manpower to sustain security for each of the myriad candidates in this ridiculously long campaign marathon.

Now your going off on a tangent. I never mentioned the Secret Service in any of my posts in this thread but for your edification the Secret Service provides major Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates and their spouses protection within 120 days of the election regardless of the cost.

You have a bug in your behind about the fact that Thompson hasn't signed a form to make things real for you. How incredibly cement-brained.

My merely stating a fact he isn't yet a candidate upsets you to the point of resorting to insults and the long diatribe you accused me of in your post #25 that is longer than my post #24 and thereby wrongly assuming I'm a Libertarian! Now who's the Libertarian! LOL!!!!

[Man50D]

I will not call you any names but I have noticed that you snipe at any pro Fred posts or threads. Agenda?

You're not paying attention. I am not "sniping" Fred as you phrase it. As I have stated in previous Fred threads and post #15 in this thread he may very well be the best candidate, if he runs but until then he is not a candidate. I hope he does He would make the race very interesting. The problem is Fred supporters are far to sensitive of the fact he is not a candidate. The reaction of Fred supporters is clearly an indication of the level of desperation and frustration Conservatives have in the Republican party.

[Man50D]

Gingrich is drawing 13% of the vote and he hasn’t declared. Are you going to whine about him too, or is it just Thompson you have an issue with?

The same applies with Gingrich . He is not a candidate until he formally declares. It's amazing how Fred supporters continue to jump to the conclusion I have an issue with Fred simply because I state the fact he has not yet declared! If you bothered to read my post #15 you would have seen mt statement he may very well be the best candidate, if he runs.

Give us credit for having a brain. We all know Fred is running.

And everyone knew Dewey was going to defeat Truman.

[NCLaw441]

You said: Just as Al Gore couldn’t win his own state (Tennessee) it seems that North Carolina has finally figured out Silky Pony.
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NC figured out Edwards prior to 2004. That is why he ran for VP and not to keep his Senate seat. He knew he had no chance.

[Man50D]

a horse that's smart enough to let all those horses that left the gate way too early and will have to do two laps worth of running, all the while kicking and biting each other, will tire themselves and everyone else out before the finish line - and a horse that has waited for the right time to start can breeze on by with ease -

I've often wondered that myself and it could be an excellent strategy but it isn't the point of my statement and it doesn't make him a candidate. All I'm saying is he isn't a candidate and people are assuming I'm against Fred. I'm not for or against anyone who is not a candidate because they are irrelevant until they declare.

[Lee'sGhost]

Just for the record, NC figured out Sen. ExLax during his term as senator, which is why he did not choose to run for reelection — he knew he would be defeated — which is also partly why he could not carry NC as a VP candidate.

Also for the the record — he was born in South Carolina and they can have full credit for him.

[Lee'sGhost]

Now here this! By the power invested in me by no one, I hereby declare a new FReeper posting rule.

There shall be NO Fred Thompson postings without pixs of Jeri Thompson.

So it is written. So it shall be done!

[Graymatter]

*sniffsniffsniff* What’s that odor? Is that a Fredophobe, a gnat, or a banished Rudybot?

[Man50D]

Fred is old enough to remember Ali's "Rope-a-dope". Are you?

Are you old enough to remember this incorrect assumption?

[NautiNurse]

Now your going off on a tangent. I never mentioned the Secret Service in any of my posts in this thread but for your edification the Secret Service provides major Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates and their spouses protection within 120 days of the election regardless of the cost.

What portion of May 3, 2007 is within 120 days of a Presidential election? Why is my point about taxpayer burden for marathon campaigns going off on a tangent?

Campaign Puts New Strain on Secret Service
Subtitle: Big Field and Early Start Force Cuts in Other Efforts

[maine-iac7]

I’m surprised the feds don’t have a private firm guarding the candidates, it’d probably be more efficient and cost effective.

They should be made to pay for their own, at least if they start running months before it's necc - can you believe -after all the campaigning we've seen, that it's still 16 1/2 MONTHS before the election!

That's OUR tax money 'hard at work" - while they run around the country side NOT working =- NOT tending the business of our country 0 IN WAR TIME!

With the millions they collect for campaigning - they need to pay their own freight. Back in the beginning of the country, our congresscritters didn't get paid at all for 'serving' = for example, while John Adams was in Congress, Abigail had a hard time of it keeping up the farm and providing for the children ...

John and his father, Samuel, were in the thick of the planning for the Boston Tea Party = we need another Tea Party. First the FAIR TAX and then, you campaigners - no campaigning until one year before election. and then provide for your own security when not on the job - and remember, you DO still have a job and getting a good salary from us. For every hour you spend on the campaign trail, x-amount will be docked from your pay.

Time to be heard. (It's fun to sit and gripe back back & forth - but that's nothing more than gossiping. Doing nothing - sins of omission - makes us just as culpable for what happens to us/US and the troops.)

Good grief, congressmen only serve a 2 year term = now they spend that 2 years campaigning! Time for a new bill - not like the mcC/F-gold against We the People to shut us/US up = but to make them work at least ONE year of their term

Actually, we conservatives aught to get together a "Sons, (& others) of Liberty" planning group, hire a good ad firm, and make a big noise with logos on shirts, "headdresses" and banners - stuff the media couldn't ignore - and demand the end of income taxes, term long campaigning and sucking the Secret Service off our country's security to babysit them....

Time, at least, for a BIG concert - we have some great "washed" performers on our side - and speakers - that could remind We the People" of the above points. Wouldn't that just shiver the timbers of the elitist congresscritters - but what could they say in their defense without making them look like - like - well, like the really are?

Maybe Hannity could spearhead a TV concert - people - even libs - would watch, even if only to hear the performers. And they would learn something in the process.

How 'bout it? Copy/float the idea above to Hannity - he already has a 'concert organization' up and running - enough emails would get his attention - and if not, knock on someone else's door

[gimme1ibertee]

The momentum for the FREDeration is building...and building....