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1 posted on 07/13/2007 9:29:03 PM PDT by Rembrandt
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To: Rembrandt
Please. Carriers are specialized ships requiring crews with specialized training.

The air groups on a carrier require specialized training to take off and land on the carrier.

The Israelis have no crews to man the ships and while the Israelis may have pilots capable of learning to take off and land on a flight deck, they do not possess that expertise today. The training issues would probably take close to 10 years to fix if they started right now. And that assumes Israel could divert sufficient qualified personnel from the rest of their armed forces.

And just running down the Stars and Stripes on a few carriers and running up the Israeli Naval Ensign, and painting Israeli stars on some Navy planes, while American sailors and aviators continue to actually man the carriers and the planes, will fool no one.

2 posted on 07/13/2007 9:52:27 PM PDT by Cheburashka (Occam's razor. It doesn't work 100% of the time, but 99%+ is not too shabby.)
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To: Rembrandt

Nice idea in theory, but it would take Israel a couple of years to learn how to operate such a complicated platform in a tight and hostile environment such as the Gulf.

Israel has a great Air Force and good Army, but Super Carrier operations are something unique to the great-old USA.

We should definitely give them all the precision guided weapons and bunker busters they want.

Any attack on Iran should be a joint U.S/Israel operation. It would be nice if at least England was involved as well. The best chance for success will be to hit hundreds of targets in two nights.


3 posted on 07/13/2007 9:56:26 PM PDT by CCGuy (USAF (Ret.))
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A lend-lease of two B-2’s would be more than sufficient given Israel’s nuclear arsenal, and would also be completely deniable for the U.S.. I would be amazed if Israel wasn’t already in possession our decommissioned F-117’s.


5 posted on 07/13/2007 10:27:00 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Rembrandt
This is all quite silly.

Why would the U.S. even bother with a "lend-lease" program? We did it before World War II because we felt a need to maintain some sort of official stance of "neutrality," but that hasn't been the case in decades.

The U.S. is on the ground in Iraq right now, and has been propping up Israel for years. So what do we gain by lending them military equipment that we're already using over there?

8 posted on 07/14/2007 3:45:03 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: Rembrandt
uh .. you just don't 'lease' a Carrier. A Carrier is part of a Battle Group. Consider it a modern day Battleship, surrounded by numerous support ships.

Not to mention that your proposal - even if feasible - would result in mass rioting in the USA. 'Ally' or not the US ain't gonna get in a Nuclear, or world wide war with every Muslim alive over Israel.

In addition, I put 'ally' in quotes, as allies DON'T spy on each other nor sell 'secret' electronic technology to the suppliers 'antagonist', like Israel did with China. Which is exactly why there are US sanctions on Israel at this time.

The fact is, Israel is on it's own with it's Muslim problem when it comes to war.

10 posted on 07/14/2007 6:45:57 AM PDT by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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How about letting Taiwanese commandos “steal” a few nukes? That would raise the ante against any shooting war in that part of the world.


11 posted on 07/14/2007 8:48:42 AM PDT by darth
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