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Ford seeks to offload Volvo in $8bn sale
The Times ^ | 7/15/2007 | Dominic O’Connell

Posted on 07/14/2007 4:59:19 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

FORD is preparing to sell Volvo, the Swedish car group it bought eight years ago, in a move that could raise $8 billion (£3.9 billion) for the struggling Detroit giant.

City sources say that a decision in principle to sell Volvo was taken a fortnight ago, but that the timing of the sale had yet to be decided. No bank had been appointed to handle the transaction.

Volvo is the flagship of Ford’s Premier Automotive Group (PAG), a stable of luxury European marques it built up during an expansionist phase in the 1980s and 1990s.

It began dismantling the group last year when it faced a bleak financial situation in its core business. It sold Aston Martin earlier this year in a deal worth £479m, and this week it will receive indicative bids for Jaguar and Land Rover, the two other British members of the PAG. The pair, which are being sold as a single business, are expected to fetch up to £1 billion.

Volvo is larger than Aston Martin, Jaguar and Land Rover. It employs 27,500 people and makes about 500,000 cars a year at plants in Swe-den and Belgium. Britain is its third-largest market after America and Swe-den. It made its name as a maker of sensible, safe cars, although in recent years it has adopted a sportier image.

While the PAG as a whole loses money – $327m last year on sales of $30 billion – Volvo is understood to be profitable. Ford does not disclose separate figures for the Swedish group, but analysts have speculated that it made about $500m last year. Ford paid $6.95 billion for Volvo in 1999, buying it from AB Volvo, the truck maker.

Analysts estimated Ford might receive $8 billion in a sale, but pointed out that the dollar had weakened in the intervening years.

A sale of Volvo would, like the disposal of Jaguar and Land Rover, be complicated by the level of integration built up between Ford and its divisions. Volvo and Ford models share common components and designs, while Volvo supplies electronic and safety systems to Ford plants.

Automotive industry sources said the timing and speed of the sale would depend on the level of interest that came from rival carmakers and private-equity groups.

“If they have a good offer from a Western carmaker, they would be able to move fast, because the integration issues can be sorted out quite quickly. But if it’s private equity, it will all need to be worked out in advance so they can do their normal due diligence,” said one source.

Renault, which planned a tie-up with Volvo before the Swedish firm was sold to Ford, could be a bidder, while other automotive bankers believe BMW, Hyundai or a Chinese manufacturer may be in the running.

“They are getting a lot of people coming to them with ideas because Volvo is an attractive asset. If they get the right one they could act quickly,” the source said.

Ford, which reports its interim figures next week, declined to comment. It said it had announced a strategic review last year and that no decision had been taken on the future of Volvo.

The company, which like all the Detroit giants is facing crippling pension and healthcare costs and tough foreign competition, is in the middle of a turnround plan devised by chief executive Alan Mulally and chairman Bill Ford.

Last year Ford lost $12.7 billion – equivalent to nearly $7 for every Ford share. It now has a stock-market value of $16.3 billion, with the shares closing last week at $8.97. The sale of Jaguar and Land Rover will take a step forward this week with indicative offers from a group of buyout firms.

Those involved with the discussions say Ford has imposed strict conditions of secrecy on would-be bidders, even to the point of vetting potential advisers. “They are completely paranoid about leaks,” said one person close to the talks.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: automakers; fordmotor; volvo

1 posted on 07/14/2007 4:59:20 PM PDT by bruinbirdman
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To: bruinbirdman
$8B for Volvo, sounds like Ford is hard up for cash. I don’t follow the subsidiaries books that closely, but it seems that it should be worth far more than that.
2 posted on 07/14/2007 5:01:02 PM PDT by mnehring (Virtus Junxit Mors Non Separabit)
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To: mnehrling

I would think 10-12 billion.


3 posted on 07/14/2007 5:04:33 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: mnehrling
$8B for Volvo, sounds like Ford is hard up for cash.

Selling assets to pay retirement benefits for socialist union workrs is not a growth strategy. They would be better off going through bankruptcy and terminating those absurd agreements.

4 posted on 07/14/2007 5:06:43 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: mnehrling

It does sound cheap. Do you know how much they paid it for?


5 posted on 07/14/2007 5:08:01 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Selling assets to pay retirement benefits for socialist union workrs is not a growth strategy. They would be better off going through bankruptcy and terminating those absurd agreements.

amen


6 posted on 07/14/2007 5:10:51 PM PDT by ulm1 (target RINOs for defeat Mcain,Martinez,Snowe,Collins,Lott,Hagel,Voinovich,Smith,Specter,Gram)
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To: kinoxi

From the article...Ford paid $6.95 billion for Volvo in 1999, buying it from AB Volvo, the truck maker.


7 posted on 07/14/2007 5:10:57 PM PDT by Ed Condon (Wanted, newer tag line in good condition.)
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To: kinoxi
$6.5B in ‘99,
Basically, $8B is probably accurate only if they were unable to grow that subsidiary.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/the_company_file/264506.stm

8 posted on 07/14/2007 5:11:02 PM PDT by mnehring (Virtus Junxit Mors Non Separabit)
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To: kinoxi

It does sound cheap. Do you know how much they paid it for?

$6.95 bil , in a depressed market


9 posted on 07/14/2007 5:11:35 PM PDT by ulm1 (target RINOs for defeat Mcain,Martinez,Snowe,Collins,Lott,Hagel,Voinovich,Smith,Specter,Gram)
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To: ulm1

the GREEDY union socalists will wrwck any company


10 posted on 07/14/2007 5:12:39 PM PDT by ulm1 (target RINOs for defeat Mcain,Martinez,Snowe,Collins,Lott,Hagel,Voinovich,Smith,Specter,Gram)
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To: Ed Condon
From the article.
;) thanks...
11 posted on 07/14/2007 5:12:46 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: mnehrling

So if you factor in Dollar depreciation (not to mention inflation)...


12 posted on 07/14/2007 5:15:55 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: kinoxi; Ed Condon

Not too bad of a deal if you consider Daimler Benz bought Chrysler for around $30 billion (IIRC) and sold or plans to sell it now for around $7-9 billion. Ford comes away form the Volvo deal with a lot less ouch than Dr. Z.


13 posted on 07/14/2007 5:20:50 PM PDT by bajabaja
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To: bajabaja

Volvo is worth more than the stated amount IMO.


14 posted on 07/14/2007 5:28:28 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: bruinbirdman

15 posted on 07/14/2007 5:30:19 PM PDT by Gritty (To Slow-Bleed Democrats, it's the GOPs' war. To the rest of the planet, it's America's war -Mk Steyn)
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To: bruinbirdman

“Who would you give a Volvo to?”
Haha - couldn’t stand that ad anyway.


16 posted on 07/14/2007 5:31:34 PM PDT by GnuHere
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To: Gritty; kinoxi

As a 65 Mustang convertible owner, I want to point out that Ford vehicles scored very well in the new ownership survey over at JD Power. (I think Ford had more models in the top initial satisfaction category than any other maker, though that number included Mazda.) It bested a few of the well known name plates. Ford has bettered its quality and the results are beginning to show. I will dig up the JD Power report if you want, and you understand my bias and sympathy for Ford colors my viewpoint. But it ain’t all bad news, even if they are letting Volvo go cheaply. I expect this portends a significantly quarterly loss report from Ford and continued problems in the near term, however.


17 posted on 07/14/2007 5:37:50 PM PDT by bajabaja
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To: Gritty
I’ve owned 2 Rangers with over 150,000 combined perfect miles on them. I wrecked/destroyed the first one at just under 100.
18 posted on 07/14/2007 5:44:51 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Yes


19 posted on 07/14/2007 5:46:18 PM PDT by mefistofelerevised
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To: bajabaja
My biggest complaint about newer Ford cars is the ungreaseable front suspension, a problem with much more than Ford. The car starts to creak after a while, and is often totaled when a rinding suspension component snaps.
20 posted on 07/14/2007 5:55:10 PM PDT by Fraxinus (My opinion worth what you paid.)
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To: Fraxinus

Just went to the Chilton’s for my sister’s Focus after reading your comment. I see what you mean. She complained of the squeaking.


21 posted on 07/14/2007 6:18:34 PM PDT by bajabaja
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To: bajabaja
I've found Fords to be excellent cars. Mine have all been extremely reliable and trouble-free.

I'm not surprised that they are now on top when it comes to quality ratings.

22 posted on 07/14/2007 6:19:46 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: bajabaja

Not exactly.

Daimler bought (in a “merger of equals”) Chrysler in 1998 for equivalent of $36 billion. After the sale they will retain 19.9% after paying additional $650 million, with Cerberus paying $7.4 billion for 80.1% stake, and with the new venture assuming over $19 billion in retirement liabilities, which Cerberus is raising through debt from banks.


23 posted on 07/14/2007 6:26:43 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: bruinbirdman
Interesting. Volvo has been one of my company’s(Caterpillar)key competitors in engines and heavy equipment.

Being detached from Ford should lower their resources, yet perhaps free them up to act more quickly. We’ll see. In general, I think this isn’t good for them in the short term.

I wonder if they’ll maintain their vertical integration with truckers. Several truck companies use Volvo engines exclusively. Perhaps the integration may break down and open the market to Caterpillar.

24 posted on 07/14/2007 6:26:59 PM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner (Here's how to prove God's existence: ask Him to reveal Himself to you.)
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To: ulm1

The greedy capitalist owners agreed to all the contracts.


25 posted on 07/14/2007 6:31:32 PM PDT by Oystir
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To: bruinbirdman

Abba could make a cool Billion for a reunion tour. Gee...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/entertainment/3044114.stm

The year after the birthday performance, the group turned down a $1bn (£600m) offer for a reunion tour.


26 posted on 07/14/2007 6:33:49 PM PDT by LowOiL (Paul wrote, "Let love be without hypocrisy. Abhor what is evil" (Rom. 12:9))
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To: CutePuppy

Thanks for that detailed information, CutePuppy. If DB retains about 20% of Chrysler, does that mean that some of DB’s engineering will be picked up by Chrysler? I had heard, for example, that some Chrysler products were bettered by DB suspension design, etc.

It still sounds like an ouch for Dr. Z, if he offloads $20 billion in pension liabilities and gets about $8 billion (for a total of around $28 billion to the good) if DB paid around $10 billion more for the merger. Not trying to quibble, but it still looks like an unhappy entry on the ledger for DB.

And the controlling owners of Chrysler are a group that takes its name for a guard dog of Hades? In deference to your screen name, I will not make any further “going to the dogs” remarks.


27 posted on 07/14/2007 6:45:51 PM PDT by bajabaja
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To: Fraxinus

My Dodge Caravan has sealed boots (no zerk fittings) on the front end. I use a 50cc syringe with a large bore needle to pump grease into the boot and use the same hole I made in future greasings. So far works OK with no water accumulation in the boot.


28 posted on 07/14/2007 6:46:00 PM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: bruinbirdman

Now if only GM would sell SAAB to a quality buyer....


29 posted on 07/14/2007 6:46:13 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

I thought that Volvo Trucks were not part of Volvo-Ford?


30 posted on 07/14/2007 6:47:59 PM PDT by Nik Naym (If Republicans are your problem, Democrats aren't the answer!)
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To: Fraxinus

they made silicone spray at the Ford dealer or a Checker Auto store....the trick is to bounce the suspension as you spray lub the area....sounds silly but it words,doesn’t wash off and stops squeaks.......The grommits used today are space age polimers and unbreakable


31 posted on 07/14/2007 6:53:35 PM PDT by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

I think you may be confusing the Volvo passenger car operations that Ford bought in 1999 with the Swedish AB Volvo (VOLV) which is competitor of Navistar and Caterpillar and manufactures heavy equipment and engines. I think Ford is buying industrial / truck engines from Navistar.

-— AB Volvo - Selected Products and Brand Names
Trucks
Mack
Renault
Volvo
Construction Equipment
Articulated haulers
Backhoe loaders
Excavators
Motor graders
Skid steer loaders
Wheel loaders
Buses
City buses
Coaches
Intercity buses
Financial Services
Customer financing
Insurance
Volvo Penta
Marine engines (luxury and work boats)
Industrial engines (forklifts and construction equipment)
Volvo Aero
Aircraft engines
Engine components


32 posted on 07/14/2007 6:53:39 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: SteveMcKing

SAAB is a great product.......wiat to see next years concept rides drawing attention to the fact GM owns SAAB


33 posted on 07/14/2007 6:55:06 PM PDT by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: bruinbirdman
Kinda scary to realize that there is a Mexican phone company guy, that could buy Ford, Volvo, and Chrysler. All out of pocket.
34 posted on 07/14/2007 7:14:45 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: bajabaja
It's definitely a big ouch for Dieter Zetsche, but he's making the best of it while keeping a big chunk of Chrysler in case of turnaround and possible future IPO, which is more likely now that it's private. And you're absolutely right about huge improvement in engineering, design and quality of Chrysler lines. 300 is so popular because in many respects it is (subjectively, of course) on a par or better than entry-level Mercedes models. I was actually surprised to find that Chrysler was still losing money, but I don't think it has anything to do with quality of the product.

Re "going to the dogs", I do appreciate your sensitivity, but we parted ways with Cerberus ages ago when he decided to go to Hades for a "filthy lucre". In other words, he is not one of us, though I understand he's doing quite well financially.

Here's more details on Cerberus (and Chrysler), from D&B:

Named after the mythical three-headed dog that guards the gates of hell, Cerberus Capital Management has become a driving force among private equity firms. One of its more recent acquisitions is an 80% stake in DaimlerChrysler Motors (soon to be renamed Chrysler Corp. LLC). Cerberus was also the lead investor of a group that acquired 51% of GMAC, the financing arm of General Motors. The company currently owns bus manufacturer Blue Bird and is buying car parts maker Tower Automotive. Other holdings include a majority stake in Japanese bank Aozora, manufactured home loan servicer Green Tree Servicing, real estate services firm LNR Property, and ACE Aviation Holdings, the parent company of Air Canada.

Because the company believes that the sector has long been undervalued, Cerberus has become heavily involved in the automobile industry. In addition to its GMAC and Chrysler holdings, the company now has an interest in CTA Acoustics (automobile insulation), GDX Automotive (auto seating products), Guilford Mills (auto seating products), and Peguform Group (auto interior products).

A key to early success for the Cerberus-Chrysler deal may well be found in its new labor agreement with the United Auto Workers (UAW) union (the current contract is set to expire in September 2007). While Chrysler has already announced plans to reduce its workforce by some 13,000 and to shutter at least one manufacturing facility, it's biggest battle will be to reduce labor and the associated health-care costs.

The task may seem daunting, given the current state of American automakers, but Cerberus does have several things in its corner. For one, because it will be a private company (the first private major US automaker since Ford went public back in the '50s), Chrysler will not live and die by daily share prices. Also, because Cerberus has extensive investments in the auto parts industry, it will have added leverage when dealing with suppliers. (To underscore its importance, a change in supplier relations was announced just hours after Cerberus emerged as the new Chrysler owner with the announcement that Simon Boag would become the new vice president of procurement.) Cerberus chairman John Snow should also give Chrysler an edge. Snow, the former Treasury secretary in the Bush administration, briefly served as the head of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration while Gerald Ford was president.

Although no official offers have been made, Cerberus could also be a potential buyer for both Jaguar and Land Rover--a couple of automobile companies Ford is looking to unload.

With a majority stake in GMAC and the financing company that comes with the Chrysler purchase, Cerberus will now control an influential share of the automotive financing market in North America.

The company is selling its stake in Vanguard Car Rental Group (parent company of Alamo Rent A Car and National Car Rental) to Enterprise Rent-A-Car.

The private equity firm has not been solely concerned with auto industry however. Cerberus agreed to buy UK home improvement chain Focus (DIY) from Apax Partners and Duke Street Capital in 2007. It is also buying UK firm Torex Retail, which makes software for retailers.

In early 2006 Cerberus joined with SUPERVALU grocery, CVS Corporation, and Kimco Realty to buy grocery chain Albertsons in a deal worth $9.6 billion.

Cerberus' NewPage Holding (formed after the acquisition of MeadWestvaco 's paper business) filed and later withdrew an initial public offering.


35 posted on 07/14/2007 7:20:16 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: Fraxinus

Every Toyota I’ve seen lately has been the same way.

When the tie rod end boot split, I couldn’t find any parts store with a greaseable replacement. At least when the same happened to my Taurus, I was able to go greasable on the replacement.

Does any manufacturer use greasable anymore? I know most switched because most owners neglected to have them serviced. So while greasable lasts much longer when properly serviced, going non-greasable means a much higher average lifespan for the initial part.

Most owners really don’t know what proper maintenance means.


36 posted on 07/14/2007 7:20:24 PM PDT by eraser2005
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To: advertising guy

Something you learn to do fast when you have a 97-01 Toyota Camry and don’t want to have to replace the strut mounts every 3 months because the noise is driving you insane. :)


37 posted on 07/14/2007 7:22:53 PM PDT by eraser2005
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To: mnehrling
$8B for Volvo, sounds like Ford is hard up for cash. I don’t follow the subsidiaries books that closely, but it seems that it should be worth far more than that.

Daimler sold Chrysler for $7b. After buying it for $35b. What a bunch of maroons.

38 posted on 07/14/2007 7:28:10 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: CutePuppy
Looks like this is a group thinking about reviving a moribund American trademark, which Chrysler seemed to be for the last few decades. Leverage/ownership of suppliers, a contract up for negotiation with the UAW, and majority ownerhip of GMAC.

The one thing I do not see (and this is not a criticism, but a comment based on my observations of Chrysler over the years) is whether their engineering staff / quality control and actual manufacturing will be up to the competition. But given what Cerberus has assembled so far, one has to expect that that central aspect has not been neglected.

For more than a decade the only Dodge I wanted was a Viper. The 300 has advanced Chrysler's image, but there is a lot more work to do.

Thanks for two very informative posts.
39 posted on 07/14/2007 7:35:22 PM PDT by bajabaja
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To: John Jamieson

You mean Carlos Slim? Yes, he is the richest man alive, but I have to tell you, he is aided by anti-competitive laws and alliances with key Mexican lawmakers. I am typing to you from Mexico using his Telnor/Telmex internet connection. Competition here is not the norm. ISP service in the US ranges from about $10 per month to $60, depending; here it starts at $40 and goes up. That is slowly changing, but competition is elbowed aside while he gets richer. I appreciate anti-trust laws. And Walmart is the largest single employer in Mexico, Slim’s phone company employees only half as many people. One can daily see here the effects of the absence of economic competition.


40 posted on 07/14/2007 7:41:08 PM PDT by bajabaja
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To: eraser2005

they use a different silicone base grease for toyota struts........look at your import parts house.stuff lasts a full year IN A FLOOD


41 posted on 07/14/2007 7:47:07 PM PDT by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: advertising guy
SAAB is a great product

As "Click" and "Clack" say:

"Where's there's smoke, there's SAAB!"

I love that quote.

42 posted on 07/14/2007 7:48:39 PM PDT by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: jws3sticks

.....working a car deal in Thousand Oaks Toyota years ago and a customer came to trade a 6 yr old Saab for a convertible 1 yr old Saab..............sent the customer offer to the desk and the boss wrote on the paper..........
ONE SAAB STORY AFTER ANOTHER.....


43 posted on 07/14/2007 7:54:23 PM PDT by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: advertising guy

Funny story. Thanks!


44 posted on 07/14/2007 8:46:49 PM PDT by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: bruinbirdman

Wow, no Volvos! Does this mean Ford is abandoning its gay-supporting agenda?


45 posted on 07/14/2007 9:51:43 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
To post 24 tag line : Don’t tempt The Lord Your God. The punish will more than you can imagine.
46 posted on 07/15/2007 4:23:58 AM PDT by G-Man 1
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To: G-Man 1

“To post 24 tag line : Don’t tempt The Lord Your God. The punish will more than you can imagine.”

You have misunderstood the intent of the tag line. This is a fulfillment of God’s own instruction.

“Isaiah 54:6 Seek the LORD while he may be found;
call on him while he is near.

7 Let the wicked forsake his way
and the evil man his thoughts.
Let him turn to the LORD, and he will have mercy on him,
and to our God, for he will freely pardon.”

and

“1 Thessalonians 5:21 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

21Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.”

Your reference is to Satan’s temptation of Christ, to throw Himself off the pinnacle of the temple to fulfill “his angels will bear you up”. To put ourselves in danger is to tempt God. To call upon him is to fulfill His will.


47 posted on 07/15/2007 7:44:22 AM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner (Here's how to prove God's existence: ask Him to reveal Himself to you.)
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To: bruinbirdman

The current Ford Ads on TV push the safety features al la Volvo.

The did learn something in the deal. Boring is ok if it is safely boring


48 posted on 07/15/2007 7:51:13 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Happiness is a down sleeping bag)
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To: advertising guy

The MOUNTS are completely worthless...

Idiots at Toyota won’t acknowledge their pathetic design.


49 posted on 07/15/2007 12:15:56 PM PDT by eraser2005
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To: bert

Funny thing is the public thinks that Ford learned safety from Volvo.

But in the years before Ford bought Volvo, Ford had more 5 star rated vehicles than all other manufacturers combined.


50 posted on 07/15/2007 12:17:57 PM PDT by eraser2005
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