FReepmail me to get on or off
Click on POGW graphic for full GW rundown
New!!: Dr. John Ray's
GREENIE WATCH
Ping me if you find one I've missed.
Posted on 07/16/2007 12:48:20 PM PDT by CedarDave
As reported by Tim Blair in the Daily Telegraph, Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) Lateline host Tony Jones hosted an in-studio discussion Thursday night after the ABC presented The Great Global Warming Swindle, and he was “hotter than a Christina Aguilera video”. “Welcome to our debate on this deeply flawed and utterly mistaken documentary, which is wrong in every regard and was made by a zombie,” Jones said in introduction, [referring to filmmaker Martin Durkin.]
~~ snip ~~
And as reported in the [National Review] Corner by Iain Murray, “A few days ago, my colleague Dr. Marlo Lewis had a column over at the American Spectator on the current debate in Congress over climate issues. This morning he received the following message (I have edited one character):
Michael T. Eckhart, President of the American Council On Renewable Energy (ACORE) wrote to Competitive Enterprise Institutes Marlo Lewis the following on July 13, 2007: “You are so full of cr*p. You have been proven wrong. The entire world has proven you wrong. You are the last guy on Earth to get it. Take this warning from me, it is my intention to destroy your career as a liar. If you produce one more editorial against climate change, I will launch a campaign against your professional integrity. I will call you a liar and charlatan to the Harvard community of which you and I are members. I will call you out as a man who has been bought by Corporate America. Go ahead, guy. Take me on.”
And finally after a blog in Nature on a paper by Lockwood and Frolich attempting to debunk the solar connection to climate change in recent decades, James Hansen of NASA responded “These half-baked notions are usually supported by empirical correlations of climate with some solar index in the past. Thus, by showing that these correlations are not consistent with recent climate change, the half-baked notions can be dispensed with.”
The disdain and dismissal the liberals have for anyone challenging their pet theory is amazing!!
The Great Global Warming Swindle is back up on the net at:
The Great Global Warming Swindle
The new date for the DVD release has been pushed back to September 30.
PING!!
Sounds like it was written by a 14 year old.
Ball o’ fire bump.
In spite of all the hype, people just aren’t buying the Global Warming line. I was with about 40 guys over the last weekend on an annual camping trip. At one point the conversation turned to Global Warming, and about three guys bought the Human-Caused Algore line, and the rest thought it was a load of BS.
Click on POGW graphic for full GW rundown
New!!: Dr. John Ray's
GREENIE WATCH
Ping me if you find one I've missed.
“Take this warning from me, it is my intention to destroy your career as a liar. If you produce one more editorial against climate change, I will launch a campaign against your professional integrity.”
WoW! You’d think they were arguing about evolution or the exsistence of a higher power. (and I’ll tell your mother)
Further proof that GW is a religion and does not tolerate and heresy or blasphemy, much like the Muslims.........
Sounds like O’Donnell’ Liar Liar rant against the Swift Boat Vet leader on MSNBC.
Dem Haavaad guys is so classy, ya know?
Men defend most violently, not the things they know to be true, but the things they fear may be false.
Islam and Global Warming hysterics explained.
As an argument, Global Warming quickly falls apart when you consider the logical steps to reduce it.
We do not fully grasp the causes of GW, (solar, cosmic, clouds, etc.) nor are any there any cost effective fixes as yet, without putting an end to Chinese coal burning and third world slash and burn.
Current “solutions” are have been too focused on global wealth transfer, rather than actual climate change.
...at 3 AM, for a paper due the next morning, while high on pot and No-Doz.
So true, excellent observation.
ping for later viewing
A lot of these lab coats have big-money grants riding on “global warming.” Their frustration at not being able to convince the rest of us to play along is palpable.
REAL scientists welcome challenges...let the theory get "crashed out" to see if it's worth your time.
Science caving to emotion is not a good sign.
It is a verbotten subject around here. Yelling quickly ensues..........
“The Great Global Warming Swindle is back up on the net”
Great news and thanks for the new link.
A few weeks ago I was looking everywhere for it but all my previous Google links had dried up.
I shudda mention G. K. Chesterton somewhere in that post.
B4L8r
And also the things they KNOW to be false but on which they have bet their reputations, ego and livelihood.
With latest outburst of threats and ad hominem attacks, not reasoned arguments, coming from the high priests of AWG, I have a feeling that they see their house of cards collapsing soon.
Hey ... Maybe we should send a letter with the same words to HIM...
http://www.whartoncostarica07.com/bio-s-eckhart.html
HIS BIO: Michael Eckhart is President of the American Council On Renewable Energy (ACORE), co-chairman of the World Council for Renewable Energy (WCRE), and a member of the Steering Committee of the REN 21 global policy network. Since its formation in 2001, ACORE has grown to have over 400 organizational members; producing three major national conferences per year on renewable energy business, finance and policy; and participating in international renewable energy policy affairs. Mr. Eckhart is a member of the Clinton Global Initiative. He also works through Solar International Management, Inc. on the financing of solar energy (SolarBank), and on the development of a new international debt security called Global Development Bonds (GDB) for the financing of sustainable development in the developing countries. He has over 25 years of experience in renewable energy, power generation, high technology, and finance. Previously, he was CEO of the IPP development firm United Power Systems, Inc.; Vice President of the venture capital firm Areté Ventures, Inc.; Manager of Strategic Planning for the Power Systems Sector of General Electric Company; and a Principal of Booz, Allen & Hamilton’s energy practice. He served in the US Navy Submarine Service. He received a BS in Electrical Engineering from Purdue University and an MBA from Harvard Business School.
If one builds his/her entire belief system on a false premise, one can expect to be disappointed. In such situations, all questions and criticisms will be regarded as attacks and the smaller the mind/character, the more violent the response.
Now do you ‘believe’ in global warming? huh? chicken? come on I’ll kick your a$$, butthead, non-believer...nee ner nee ner nee ner
Sorry, Mr. Gallileo. It's the stake for you.
You captured its spirit perfectly!
Hm
This religion of theirs just continues on and on.
I ask the same question each time to the GW hounds and never get an answer. If humans are causing this on earth, why is Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Pluto all warming at the same time according to NASA and other agencies?
It’s a simple question that has yet to be answered.
Bump
Funny, I ran into a real [non climate] scientist this morning and asked him if he’d watched Live Earth! He apologized for missing it. He chuckled about Global Warming and I mentioned a former colleague of ours remarks about the ozone hole. I knew a lot of people in the early 1990’s who were experts on the ionosphere. They were shaking their heads about the ozone hole scare, it was just so completely goofy.
Anyway, one guy, an ionospheric scientist, figured that a lot of ionospheric scientists needed to find a new gig with the cold war drying up. Most ionospheric studies were funded by the Air Force and they figured they needed a new sponsor. I guess global warming fit the bill.
The Church’s treatment of Galileo was civil and rational compared to the behavior of GW adherents. I mean that, read the history.
Trouble is, nobody will deny THAT. The trouble comes about because they have elided the magic word: "Anthropogenic."
That's what they need to justify. But they won't allow discussion of it.
“As an argument, Global Warming quickly falls apart when you consider the logical steps to reduce it.
We do not fully grasp the causes of GW, (solar, cosmic, clouds, etc.) nor are any there any cost effective fixes as yet, without putting an end to Chinese coal burning and third world slash and burn.”
Actually, there is a cost-effective method to reduce our CO2 generation by half or more: USE NUCLEAR POWER.
By adopting nuclear power for 80% of our electricity generation, the 40% of CO2 from that source (most from coal) could be reduced to nothing. WE can further reduce
CO2 by displacing some of the fossil fuel use in transportation and heating with nuclear-derived electricity.
Consequently, we could with reasonable cost get to a point where our CO2 generation is cut in half.
EVEN BETTER - it wouldn’t cost us anything more than we pay for energy today, because nuclear power is cost-competitive with all other forms of energy.
Question: If this solution for cutting CO2 in half is right there in front of our faces, WHY HASN’T THE GLOBAL WARMING SCAREMONGERS MENTIONED IT?
“Current “solutions” are have been too focused on global wealth transfer, rather than actual climate change.”
.... Uh, yeah, that has something to do with it.
It’s an anti-energy agenda instead of a clean energy agenda.
That was almost as good as Zell Miller making Chrissy Matthews cry during the pubbie convention.....04 was one helluvan election year!
But now, we have Fred to look forward too.....he'll be spittin out libs like watermelon seeds....yeeehawwww!
We used to call this fascism.
I still call it fascism.
Boy, you just described my entire college years.
Grab TGGWS while you can. It may not stay up there too long.
Hmmm...
My standard reply here in Southern Wisconsin is: Maybe you can explain why the glaciers melted 10,000 years ago from right where we are standing. Huh? Sir? Dinasour gas?
You could remind them that “Greenland” got its name because it was once green.
I wonder what Eckhart’s screenname is over at Kos.
You can comment here as well ...
http://irrationaloptimism.blogspot.com/2007/07/it-is-my-intention-to-destroy-your.html
Marlo Lewis’ column (found here http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=11702 ) made very reasonable and fact-based points about what the right tradeoffs between economic growth and CO2 limits are. Including an MIT Study that basically concludes that CO2 cap-and-trade doesnt work!
He concludes RIGHTLY that “Regulatory climate strategies put the policy cart before the technology horse. Not until markets are capable of producing vast quantities of affordable energy without emissions would it be reasonable for Congress to consider mandatory emission cuts.”
Totally true... we should focus on creating energy with low emissions *NOT* on economy-stifling caps on CO2 ... Now, there is a cost-effective method to reduce our CO2 generation by half or more: USE NUCLEAR POWER. By adopting nuclear power for 80% of our electricity generation, the 40% of CO2 from that source (most from coal) could be reduced to nothing. WE can further reduce
CO2 by displacing some of the fossil fuel use in transportation and heating with nuclear-derived electricity.
Why is it so bad to point out that Kyoto-type limits have failed?
If you care about the environment, wouldnt you want to know that cap-and-trade is a sham that wont deliver the goods?
Why the violent reaction from alarmists over this debate? It’s not conservatives, but the AGW alarmists who are over-emotional about it. The silencing of global warming skeptics is all about the stifling the truth of that skepticism. Al Gore lies and claims that sea level will rise 20 feet. what do we do? We should shut up the skeptics who point out the virtual impossibility of this scenario, the fact that even IPCC estimates are around 1/10th of this; and we show this phony propaganda to high school kids. This nonsense is the “Reefer Madness” of our era - cheap phony propaganda.
Yes, Mr Eckharts is compromised: He stands to make millions off the scam of Government spending billions on ‘renewables’ ...
“He also works through Solar International Management, Inc. on the financing of solar energy (SolarBank), and on the development of a new international debt security called Global Development Bonds (GDB) for the financing of sustainable development in the developing countries. “
He will make millions by getting the Government to fund his schemes. His schemes rely on the emissions limits and ‘cap-and-trade’ THAT DON’T WORK. No wonder he flipped out. Anyone who doesn’t consider that to be a biased and compromised position is naive fool.
If you believe that it is human caused, then the most obvious solution is to eliminate a goodly percentage of the problem causers. Rather than freezing to death in the winter and roasting in the summer, I advocated war and pestilence.
The nuclear power industry employs mostly well-paid English speaking male conservative engineers with above average intelligence. Half the country will never agree to nuclear power because of that.
I wonder why China doesn't take the nuclear power lead. They have cheap engineers and few lawyers. We should help them design and try out new nuclear technologies. If they have a nuclear meltdown it won't be on our side of the planet.
Oh yes, Greenland was once green! I’ll add that to my clever retort. Course it never does any good. The girl who works at the coffee shop always says “But that’s what the scientists say”
On another note, what ever happened to the "if we don't save the rain forests, we're all gonna die" movement?
:}
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.