Skip to comments.War Over "The War" (Ken Burns)
Posted on 07/18/2007 5:57:44 AM PDT by Valin
When Ken Burns releases a documentary, America watches. This is partly because of his uniquely compelling style, but also partly because his stories are those of America itself: the Civil War, jazz, baseball.
But now some ethnic activists and politicians are decrying Burns's latest project on World War II, The War, as not reflective of America -- and are seeking to impose that judgment. If they get their way, there may be more such spats on the horizon.
Why the ruckus?
Burns's narrative technique relies heavily on individual accounts and The War is no exception. He aims to tell the story of how World War II affected the people of four towns -- Sacramento, California; Waterbury, Connecticut; Mobile, Alabama; and Luverne, Minnesota. Interviews with survivors from those towns are integral to the story and, naturally, the survivors are few in number today.
This is where the politics comes in. Among those survivors are African-Americans and, because of the very special circumstances involved, Japanese-Americans who were unjustly interned. But there are no Hispanics, which has led outraged Latino advocacy groups to pressure Burns to include Hispanics in his documentary.
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Now it only they would respond positively to Islam vs. Islamists: Voices from the Muslim Center
oh boy.....the Mobile Alabama part should be real fun.....
he won’t just leave it at shipyards and Brookley field.....nah, we’ll have to self flagellate over James Crow for the appropriate butt kissing
Burns forgot to use PBS math.
Such and such % anglo, this % black, x % asian, etc., etc...
Such and such % anglo, this % black, x % asian, etc., etc...
When I was in television, this was referred to in meetings, in code, as the 'Bridge of the Enterprise'...
PC modey-dopey (& boring) Ken Burns hasn’t been PC enough!!!!
See, PC Ken? You can never satisfy! Just drop the PC race-coddling crap. It ain’t worth it, and it ain’t representative, anyway.
Turns out it was the Affiliated States.
“’Bridge of the Enterprise’...”
Cute, I need to remember that one.
‘PBS, to its credit, reacted strongly to this bullying by asserting its editorial independence, saying in a statement, “Any attempt by the government or interest groups to influence content, especially before a program has aired, raises serious Constitutional, statutory and policy concerns.”’
Yes and no.
You get what you get when you have government funding. They GET to control you. Much more than if you did it on your own and raised money from private investors.
In it women, blacks, latinos, arabs and gays defeat Hitler, Mussolini, Tojo and George W. Bush to free the world from all oppression!
“The people that are in our film are not their nationality, not their country of origin, not their ethnicity, not their religion, not their sex, not their race, but human beings. Not just Americans, but human beings.”
You pathetic PC BSer.
If you were so interested in “human beings” - did you include REAL Germans and REAL Japanese in your accounts? Did you ask them how they “feel”?
You hypocritical !$#!@#.
When you see these KB shows, and you think of the % population in reality vs. on his shows AND how much time is spent, it’s really WAY out of whack.
It appears you have some sort of thing about Ken burns. His politics aside a great film maker.
Burns discovered racism as a overriding theme in his Jazz work. Both the Jazz and Baseball works would’ve been half-hour shows if the word “racism” would’ve been removed. I think that this was lampooned in FR among other places.
Burns is now like a music act whose producers found a “sound” that it could sell, and now replicate that song a dozen times (think “Air Supply” and “REO Speedwagon”). This is sad, because the Civil War work was by far the best for Burns.
Burns is very skilled. I find his work compelling -- but it really irks me that everything seems to revolve around how blacks have been treated in America.
There is more to the American story than race relations. To some extent, despite his vast talent as a film-maker, Burns is a one-note wonder. Now he appears to be hoist on his own petard.
Another Burns-lover, huh?
Politics (with which his “films” are reaking) aside, he’s boring. Everything is low monotone, with depressing music.
“Civil War” was reaking with racism, of course, too. And that was 1st. He found that theme right away and ALWAYS pushes it. Especially as it relates to America.
Poor self-flagellating white American boy.
Racism overshadows Burns’ work.
It’s ironic that one of the most uniting events in American history now has to be told in a fragmented, ethnicity-oriented style, thanks to “diversity”.
He shoulda quit after "Civil War". He will never do better than that.
I thought it was interesting reading an anecdote in 1 of those WWII series (books! not TV!) from a while back.
It wrote about how even women were lining up to sign up for jobs/military, and amongst them in some town’s line was an Indian (ahem, that was pre-PC; “Native American”) woman in full native dress.
Nothing wrong with diversity aka a fact, we are a mutt nation. The trouble comes when diversity becomes Diversity aka a value.
I await the day when I see a protest by lefthanded albino bi-sexual dwarf’s.
“The Civil War” boring? Ok, if you say so.
My wife and I loved the Burns series on the Civil War, to the point of buying it.
I join Rebel in decrying Burn’ worth as a historian, not as a film maker. His works are so excessively PC that their historical value is diminished.
Yes. They’re all boring. His whole tone is boring - music, monotone narration, everything. Even “Baseball” is presented in a depressing, boring light (forgetting the race-baiting).
I don’t see how anyone thinks this guy is “rivetting”.
Someone years ago fantasized about him covering my horse-racing. I pleaded, dear God, no. It would be soooo boring, and covered with references to how black jockeys were slaves and then “sold out” for whites. I can hear the race-calls now - there would be no Dave Johnson/Trevor Denman excitement about it. It would be zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
You’re so un-PC. They’re not “dwarfs”!
Live by the PC sword, Die by the PC sword...
thanks Tijeris Slim....that parody was one of the funniest things I’ve seen in a while...Im sure it’s already been labeled as “racist” by the PC gods
I wonder if he’s going to go on at length about the Communist led anti-war movement that opposed war against Nazi Germany until Adolph Hitler betrayed Stalin.
Or is that politically incorrect to point out that even then American Communists led the so-called anti-war movement?
Speaking about Ken Burns parodies check this one out:
Speaking about Ken Burns parodies check this one out: http://www.veoh.com/videos/v2510423SWH5D9p
...or the Mexican-American War... which will give some the problem of which side to choose.
Before the showing, our local PBS affiliate showed its own locally produced documentary about how badly the Japanese Americans, Latinos and Blacks were treated during the war with a little about how important dancing was and the contributions of women to war time industry were.
All good balanced PBS stuff.
I was anxious to watch it until all the carping started from the usual suspects. Not enough hispanics, not enough blacks, yadda,yadda,yadda. PBS goes PC again.
You should have expected it in a Ken Burns documentary. Everything he does is infused with PC Politics!
I watched a little of it, and found it PC, maudlin, and boring. I was amused by the black man who said the US Army didn’t deserve somebody as wonderful as him. He should have spent the war(and a few years after) on the rockpile.